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07-22-2007, 5:40 PM DaveNearAtlanta Joined on 03-03-2006 Lawrenceville, GA Posts 500 crash bar identification Crash bars, engine guards, case guards, engine bars or whatever you want to call 'em are popular accessories.  They're great for mounting foot pegs, and judging from all the bent and road-rashed ones on that auction site quite a few have done exactly what they were originally designed to do. Let's try to identify the various ones, both Honda and aftermarket, in this thread.  As far as I know, Honda only made one basic style and it was marketed as a Hondaline accessory.  I don't think bikes came with it installed from the factory but it was a very popular dealer-installed item. Even though they appear identical at first glance, the various Hondaline guards had subtle differences so they are not always interchangeable.  Here is a Hondaline guard. My Web Site 1982 GL500 1983 GL650 This User ID is no longer used. DaveF is my new User ID.    Report

07-22-2007, 5:46 PM DaveNearAtlanta Joined on 03-03-2006 Lawrenceville, GA Posts 500 Re: crash bar identification Hondaline guards came with this hardware.  The spacers and 8mm flange nuts were installed at the lower front mounting locations and the two bolts were used at the rear mounting location.  The new bolts were slightly longer to account for the thickness of the guards. The original bolts that came on the CX/GL bike were 10x70 mm, Honda part number 95801-10070-00.  The replacement bolts that came with the Hondaline guards were 10x80 mm, Honda part number 95801-10080-00. The Honda part number for the spacer is 90120-056-010. The Honda part number for the 8mm flange nut is 94050-08000. At the time of this writing the hardware is still available from Honda. My Web Site 1982 GL500 1983 GL650 This User ID is no longer used. DaveF is my new User ID.    Report

07-22-2007, 6:16 PM DaveNearAtlanta Joined on 03-03-2006 Lawrenceville, GA Posts 500 Re: crash bar identification The fairing mounting brackets, also called cowl stays, complicate interchangeablility of the Hondaline guards.  Here is my understanding of what fits;  if someone knows better please jump in and correct me. CX500 guards can be used on a GL500 (no fairing), but not a GL500I (with fairing) unless modified.  It would be more difficult to modify them to fit a GL650 or GL650I. GL500 guards can be installed on a CX500, but not a GL650 or GL650I without modification. GL650 and CX650 guards are one and the same item.  They will not fit on a CX500 or GL500 without modification. Since the major incompatibilities are in the area of the cowl stays, this area on the guards is important to be aware of if you're planning to purchase some Hondaline guards. These photos show some of the differences.  All photos are taken of the right side guard. The left bracket on the CX500 guard looks much fatter than the GL500 guards.  The second GL500 guard's bracket also has a slight bend. The GL650 guard's bracket has a sharp bend. My Web Site 1982 GL500 1983 GL650 This User ID is no longer used. DaveF is my new User ID.    Report

07-22-2007, 6:21 PM DaveNearAtlanta Joined on 03-03-2006 Lawrenceville, GA Posts 500 Re: crash bar identification Here is another view of the CX500 and GL500 guards. My Web Site 1982 GL500 1983 GL650 This User ID is no longer used. DaveF is my new User ID.    Report

07-22-2007, 6:26 PM DaveNearAtlanta Joined on 03-03-2006 Lawrenceville, GA Posts 500 Re: crash bar identification The 650 engines have a greater deck height than the 500 engines due to the larger displacement.  This affects the distance between the mounting holes for the guards. My Web Site 1982 GL500 1983 GL650 This User ID is no longer used. DaveF is my new User ID.    Report

07-23-2007, 2:47 PM DaveNearAtlanta Joined on 03-03-2006 Lawrenceville, GA Posts 500 Markland Industries Markland Industries made several accessories for the Silverwing including engine guards, rear saddlebag guards, heel-toe shifter, floor boards, front fender trim, and the much-desired trunk set-back kit.  This photo was taken from their 1982 sales brochure. The Markland Industries part number for the engine guard pair is 025001.  This photo shows them prior to installation. My Web Site 1982 GL500 1983 GL650 This User ID is no longer used. DaveF is my new User ID.    Report

01-04-2008, 8:17 PM RustyTec Joined on 08-26-2007 Dallas Tx. Posts 606 Re: Markland Industries Dam good post. I can not believe you didn't get ANY responses!  I would really like to see more post like this one. It puts the info out there, before it asked. - A search is easier/faster than waiting for responses.  I don’t need engine guards just now, but if I ever do, the info is right here. Thanks. RustyTec ’81 GL500. Dallas Texas. RustyVape Electronic Cigarettes Local NE Dallas, Texas    Report

01-05-2008, 6:03 AM mikeinpittsburgh Joined on 03-03-2006 Pittsburgh, PA Posts 436 Re: crash bar identification How did I miss this the 1st time? Great post! mikeinpittsburgh 1983 GL650I 2000 K1200LT    Report

01-05-2008, 9:42 AM DaveNearAtlanta Joined on 03-03-2006 Lawrenceville, GA Posts 500 Re: crash bar identification There were several other manufacturers of crash bars, including MC Enterprises among others.  Unfortunately I don't know how to identify them and only have limited photos found on the 'net. Hopefully others can add to this thread by posting photos and text for some of the aftermarket crash bars. My Web Site 1982 GL500 1983 GL650 This User ID is no longer used. DaveF is my new User ID.    Report

01-05-2008, 9:48 AM mildhog Joined on 11-21-2007 Chesapeake, VA Posts 856 Re: crash bar identification I've seen the short wrap around bars for sale at wemoto.com. 91 pounds and 51 pounds. Don't know what that is in $$ but, with the exchange rate and shipping, it's probably pricey. This is a good post on the engine bars. Thanks. I have the three point bars on my and it looks like they have been needed more than once. Arnie in VA 1980 GL1100I Goldwing 1982 GL500I Silverwing 1983 GL650 (The stable is full)    Report

01-05-2008, 10:54 AM Vulcan61 Joined on 05-06-2007 Nashville,TN Posts 64 Re: crash bar identification I just placed a crash bar on my GL500I, it came off of my spares GL500I. Dont have a pic at this time but it looks a wide "U" shape. Bolts to the rad/engine mount then has two flat bars that run under the engine and mount to the front H-box exhaust mount. 85 Honda Shadow 82 GL500I ( work in progress ) 82 GL500 (parts???)    Report

01-05-2008, 12:03 PM hueyslick 291 Joined on 07-27-2007 Morgan Hill, CA Posts 156 Re: crash bar identification My Gl500 came without any protection. Liked this information. Anyone have an extra set for my 81? I am interested.    Report

01-06-2008, 5:37 PM dean Joined on 06-13-2007 Pittsboro, NC Posts 511 Re: Markland Industries  DaveNearAtlanta wrote: i would so like to run across a set of these for a gl650. 06 FZ6 80 CX500 Custom (project) 83 Gl650I (given back to original owner)    Report

01-06-2008, 7:46 PM ujm Joined on 01-05-2008 St. Joseph Missouri Posts 204 Re: Markland Industries I have a set of the stock Hondaline ones, unfortunatley not the shown hardware. They are not perfect, but usable - can post pic's if anyone is interested in them. I'm thinking they came off a CX model. The crash bar on my GL500 was broken and half fell off somewhere, so I am running without and actually prefer it that way, asthetically at least. I laid my old CX500C over a couple decades ago, amazing how well JB Weld matched up and repaired the valve cover.... Steve honda919rider@yahoo.com    Report

01-07-2008, 2:59 PM Ehnisz Joined on 07-27-2007 Sacramento, CA Posts 49 Re: crash bar identification I did buy the 51 pound version from wemoto.com. for my 82 GL500I   Exchange rate in Oct 07 was about 2 to 1 - so it was $100.00 ish.   The freight was 5 pounds - or $10.00.   It came via "Royal Post" Air.    From start to finish - it was about 10 days to receive in California.   Would I order from them again - YES!!!      The printing on the packaging for the bars was in German - so I am thinking that wemoto may have ordered the bars for my order.    The 'fasteners' arrived in a separate package earlier than the bars - well packaged for the trip.  The price included whatever duty charges that may have existed as I recall only getting the approx $110.00 charge to my credit card. 2006 Suzuki Burgman 650 - for 2 up (wife has 2 knee and 1 hip replacement) 1996 Kawasaki Voyager XII    Report

01-07-2008, 3:23 PM DaveNearAtlanta Joined on 03-03-2006 Lawrenceville, GA Posts 500 Re: crash bar identification Could you possibly post some photos in this thread so we can see what they look like on your bike? From the wemoto website here are the two versions. This is the "standard" version for sale at a price of 51 pounds. This is the "alternative" version for sale at a price of 91 pounds. My Web Site 1982 GL500 1983 GL650 This User ID is no longer used. DaveF is my new User ID.    Report

01-07-2008, 3:55 PM Ehnisz Joined on 07-27-2007 Sacramento, CA Posts 49 Re: crash bar identification If you are asking me..... it was the 'top' image.   Not the one with what appears to be a bar running underneath.  They included two longer bolts for the 'rear' most attachement - near the plastic coolant bottle.  It does make it a bit more difficult to pull the the valve covers.  Taking off the gas tank helps a bit.   The front attachments are slotted, so you can vary the spacing between the cover and the bar. 2006 Suzuki Burgman 650 - for 2 up (wife has 2 knee and 1 hip replacement) 1996 Kawasaki Voyager XII    Report

01-07-2008, 5:21 PM mildhog Joined on 11-21-2007 Chesapeake, VA Posts 856 Re: crash bar identification That's not as pricey as I thought. I do like the lower bars. You could put foot rests on it. I don't know anything about sliders though I've seen them advertised. Are they for crash protection? If so, could they be mounted to the fairing (I guess that's where they normally go) and protect the engine? Just looking for alternatives. Arnie in VA 1980 GL1100I Goldwing 1982 GL500I Silverwing 1983 GL650 (The stable is full)    Report

03-11-2008, 5:23 AM DaveNearAtlanta Joined on 03-03-2006 Lawrenceville, GA Posts 500 Re: crash bar identification Sture posted this photo in another thread and I copied it so it will also be in this thread.  As he stated, these are the Wemoto big crash bars made by Fehling of Germany. My Web Site 1982 GL500 1983 GL650 This User ID is no longer used. DaveF is my new User ID.    Report

04-14-2008, 11:38 PM Ryan Joined on 09-15-2007 Lethbridge, Ab, Canada Posts 105 Re: crash bar identification Does anyone know where on earth I could find that threaded spacer for the Hondaline guards? 1979 CX500D 1980 CB750f    Report

04-17-2008, 11:24 AM RichNCT Joined on 03-02-2006 Connecticut, USA Posts 3,463 Re: crash bar identification I've thought about making some, but haven't yet.  They would be real simple to drill and tap from hex stock, only the threads need to be metric, not the hex stock.  Cut the hex stock, drill clear thru and tap, locktite a stud in one end.  Access to a metal lathe would be helpful of course.  Refueling on The James Bay Road, 2009 Born to be relatively wild (for a grampa x 3) GL650I, CX650E, CX650T    Report

04-18-2008, 7:20 AM jhovel Joined on 01-02-2008 Near Bendigo, Australia Posts 69 Re: crash bar identification The Australian CX forum recently had a similar thread: http://australiancx.asn.au/forum/index.php?topic=849.15 Have a look there. Joe PS: I've just about finished (plating tomorrow) 10 sets of spacers for acquaintences and myself. Not hard but it is time consuming....    Report

04-18-2008, 7:52 AM larryb22 Joined on 12-13-2007 Buchanan Michigan Posts 144 Re: crash bar identification Just had my Honda Line crash bars off 500I. I do believe they are the wrong ones. Not sure how the dealer or PO got them on in the first place. The bolt holes were at least 3/8 of an inch too close. I opened them up with a deburring tool. They still did not go on without a bit of persuasion. Larry 1996 BMW K-1100rs. SW Michigan. 2008 Yamaha xv250. 1995 Kawasaki Vulcan 500.    Report

04-19-2008, 1:54 PM mcreviver Joined on 05-06-2007 Williamsport, PA Posts 888 Re: crash bar identification The bars Vulcan61 is referring to are the KG brand. I installed a lot of them back in the day. Some folks put forward foot pegs on those. Ron in PA    Report

04-19-2008, 4:39 PM rodent Joined on 10-24-2007 Derry NH Posts 214 Re: crash bar identification Thats what I just put on my bike they were made by KG in Rhode Island and unless you like kissing your knees or are like 5 foot tall they would not work well for hiway pegs 78 cx500 (rodent)(my twisted twin) 82 cx500c (parts) 86 cmx450 (wifey's) and in the future who knows http://s218.photobucket.com/albums/cc275/rodentcx/CX500/    Report

05-06-2008, 11:45 AM Randall-in-Mpls Joined on 07-06-2007 Minneapolis, MN Posts 2,629 Re: crash bar identification These are the engine guards on my '78 CX. They attach to the top engine hangar bolt, and to the upper and lower bolts of the front engine hangar via offset brackets (to get around the edge of the plastic radiator cover), the upper set being part of the vetter fairing package.  Because of the offsets, I assume these are exclusive to the '78. Anyone recognize these?  There aren't any maker's marks, that I'm aware of. Thanks, R '78 CX500 - Black Maggot --> Green Grub / Yellow Grub / Red Grub ???    Report

05-06-2008, 12:15 PM Panther Joined on 05-09-2006 Las Vegas, NV Posts 1,264 Re: crash bar identification Wow, those are some nice bars. Never seen anything like them before. Peace & Light >^..^< .......... '83 GL650swi "My Little Grey Lady" '82 GL500swi parts bike '78 DT175 '86 LS650 Milady's bike    Report

05-06-2008, 8:17 PM rodent Joined on 10-24-2007 Derry NH Posts 214 Re: crash bar identification I still like the ones I found 78 cx500 (rodent)(my twisted twin) 82 cx500c (parts) 86 cmx450 (wifey's) and in the future who knows http://s218.photobucket.com/albums/cc275/rodentcx/CX500/    Report

05-07-2008, 1:46 PM Randall-in-Mpls Joined on 07-06-2007 Minneapolis, MN Posts 2,629 Re: crash bar identification The '78 being sold by Jim from Michigan has the same guards as mine: So I have now seen them somewhere other than on my bike, but I still don't know what they are. R '78 CX500 - Black Maggot --> Green Grub / Yellow Grub / Red Grub ???    Report

06-09-2008, 4:30 PM RustyTec Joined on 08-26-2007 Dallas Tx. Posts 606 Re: crash bar identification This is 'Mike R.' 16yo son's bike. I'm just posting it for him. Anyone know anything about these? RustyTec ’81 GL500. Dallas Texas. RustyVape Electronic Cigarettes Local NE Dallas, Texas    Report

06-15-2008, 6:00 AM JimH Joined on 05-14-2008 Metro Atlanta Georgia Posts 6 Re: crash bar identification Tarozzi has these listed for the following models: 08-0065 HONDA CX 500 E 1982 08-0081 HONDA CX 500 CUSTOM 1980 08-0032 HONDA CX 500 1979 08-0066 HONDA CX 650 E 1983 I have not sold these before as I did not realize there was any interest. If someone would like to try a set I'll get a set and send them for you to fit and take pictures. If you like them after you install them you can pay for them then - if not you can return them. Jim Hinshaw www.fastfromthepast.com    Report

06-15-2008, 6:50 AM Lockman Joined on 06-09-2008 Perry, Ohio Posts 82 Re: crash bar identification I want to take the time to say thank you to Dave. This has been the most informative thread on any forum I've been on for the silverwing...and will be my benchmark for finding and modifiying aftermarket items. I hope they dont delete this thread anytime soon. Thank you...thank you ....thank you    Report

06-15-2008, 6:58 AM Lockman Joined on 06-09-2008 Perry, Ohio Posts 82 Re: crash bar identification Dave.....you had mentioned that there was, at one time, availlable a heel toe shifter and foot rest set for the Gl500i. If you have any information on that,,,could you ples post. This is the one add on I would love to get...but until your post...no one has ever heard of such a thing for the silverwing. Thanks    Report

06-15-2008, 7:48 AM DaveF Joined on 06-11-2008 Lawrenceville, GA Posts 1,232 Re: crash bar identification I don't really know much about them so I started this thread in hopes others could jump in with more information. Since this thread is about crash bars, it made sense to start a new one. My Web Site 1982 GL500 1983 GL650    Report

06-15-2008, 7:55 AM DaveF Joined on 06-11-2008 Lawrenceville, GA Posts 1,232 Re: crash bar identification  JimH wrote: Tarozzi has these listed for the following models: 08-0065 HONDA CX 500 E 1982 08-0081 HONDA CX 500 CUSTOM 1980 08-0032 HONDA CX 500 1979 08-0066 HONDA CX 650 E 1983 I have not sold these before as I did not realize there was any interest. If someone would like to try a set I'll get a set and send them for you to fit and take pictures. If you like them after you install them you can pay for them then - if not you can return them. Jim Hinshaw www.fastfromthepast.com Jim, do you have any pictures of these available? Also, I could verify the fit on the GL500 and GL650 bikes if that would be of any help since I'm local.  My bikes currently all have crash bars, but many folks here could use a set. My Web Site 1982 GL500 1983 GL650    Report

06-15-2008, 8:20 AM Anonymous Re: crash bar identification They do not have any listed for the GL models only the CX models.

06-15-2008, 11:55 AM Lockman Joined on 06-09-2008 Perry, Ohio Posts 82 Re: crash bar identification Jim...I would love to participate...but alas...I only have a GL500i 1982. I do need crash bars and would be more than happy to assist in any way in the future as well.    Report

06-15-2008, 1:19 PM DaveF Joined on 06-11-2008 Lawrenceville, GA Posts 1,232 Re: crash bar identification There is an excellent chance the CX crash bars will fit the naked (non-Interstate) GL models, and a less likely chance they will fit the Interstate models with fairing. But the only way to know for sure is to try it. My Web Site 1982 GL500 1983 GL650    Report

06-15-2008, 8:21 PM N.W.OhioNomad Joined on 05-31-2008 Archbold,OH Posts 81 Re: crash bar identification Does anyone know if the style of crash bar on Randall-in-Mpls' 78deluxe would fit or be made to fit my81custom? I really like the looks of them and there different then most you see. Thanks for the help 1981 cx500c "silver bullet" "Its better to be hated for what you are than loved for what you are not" -carpy carpenter    Report

07-05-2008, 2:24 PM apence Joined on 07-05-2008 Alaska Posts 6 Re: crash bar identification so - not sure if the bars listed above for 51 pounds would fit the cx 650...? 1983 CX650 Custom    Report

07-10-2008, 8:48 PM Randall-in-Mpls Joined on 07-06-2007 Minneapolis, MN Posts 2,629 Re: crash bar identification  N.W.OhioNomad wrote: Does anyone know if the style of crash bar on Randall-in-Mpls' 78deluxe would fit or be made to fit my81custom? If you have the offset brackets, they should fit any CX500.  Because of the brackets, I think these were only made for the '78 Standard (with the plastic radiator cover.) I don't know what brand they are.  Is it possible these are from Vetter?  The upper brackets are part of the Vetter fairing mounting kit, and look very similar to the (heavier) lower brackets. R '78 CX500 - Black Maggot --> Green Grub / Yellow Grub / Red Grub ???    Report

07-11-2008, 6:33 AM shawn82sw Joined on 07-01-2008 Norfolk, VA Posts 52 Re: Markland Industries <BLOCKQUOTE><table width="85%"><tr><td class="txt4"><img src="/cs/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif">&nbsp;<strong>DaveNearAtlanta wrote:</strong></td></tr><tr><td class="quoteTable"><table width="100%"><tr><td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4">Markland Industries made several accessories for the Silverwing including engine guards, rear saddlebag guards, heel-toe shifter, floor boards, front fender trim, and the much-desired trunk set-back kit.  This photo was taken from their 1982 sales brochure.<br><br><img src="http://www.genebitsystems.com/david/LinkedPhotos/Markland.jpg" border="0" /><br><br><br>The Markland Industries part number for the engine guard pair is 025001.  This photo shows them prior to installation.<br><br><img src="http://www.genebitsystems.com/david/LinkedPhotos/MarklandCrashBars.jpg" border="0" /><br><br></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE> What baout the side bags bar '82 Honda Silver Wing Gl500i ------ Feed a noob an answer and they are OK for today, but encourage them to use the SEARCH function and they can answer their own questions!    Report

07-11-2008, 2:43 PM ediblecrayons03 Joined on 07-07-2008 johnson vt Posts 76 Re: crash bar identification  rodent wrote: I still like the ones I found these are what is on my CX500. i like them because they also have a under engine skid plate. Life is to important to be taken seriously. '79 CX500 '79 CX500 parts bike '82 Yamaha Exciter 250    Report

07-11-2008, 4:08 PM brinkcx Joined on 07-12-2008 Nijkerk NL Posts 30 Re: crash bar identification For the spacer try Honda partnr. 90120-056-010 . let's see if I can get a picture in here spacer If not,  have a look at http://www.Photoshed.net/usr/220/kuip_boutjes1.J.jpg . The part number is on the forum here somewhere, because that's where I found it in the first place.  I've just bought these to fix a fairing to a '79 CX500.  Inside thread is M10x1.25 and fits the studs on the engine. The bolts are 85 mm long instead of the standard 75 mm. CX500 1978 GL500I 1982    Report

07-11-2008, 5:55 PM DaveF Joined on 06-11-2008 Lawrenceville, GA Posts 1,232 Re: crash bar identification Thanks for posting this very useful information.  And welcome to the forum!  My Web Site 1982 GL500 1983 GL650    Report

07-12-2008, 12:17 PM brinkcx Joined on 07-12-2008 Nijkerk NL Posts 30 Re: crash bar identification Ok, lets try again to get a picture in here... if it doesn't work will somebody please tell me how it should be done? Here goes .... thanks to DaveF, there is now a smaller picture:   BTW, the threaded end is normal M8. CX500 1978 GL500I 1982    Report

07-12-2008, 10:28 PM Randall-in-Mpls Joined on 07-06-2007 Minneapolis, MN Posts 2,629 Re: crash bar identification I have some old Hondaline guards that I test-fitted the last time I had the other set off to service my carbs.  (I still need to measure to be sure they're for the CX.) What I don't understand is how to solve the apparent conflict between the required spacer and the clutch cable. Any insight? Thanks, R '78 CX500 - Black Maggot --> Green Grub / Yellow Grub / Red Grub ???    Report

07-13-2008, 8:35 AM DaveF Joined on 06-11-2008 Lawrenceville, GA Posts 1,232 Re: crash bar identification This is how I route the clutch cable on the GL. My Web Site 1982 GL500 1983 GL650    Report

07-13-2008, 3:28 PM Randall-in-Mpls Joined on 07-06-2007 Minneapolis, MN Posts 2,629 Re: crash bar identification Thanks, Dave.  It appears there's more clearance than I expected. R '78 CX500 - Black Maggot --> Green Grub / Yellow Grub / Red Grub ???    Report

09-20-2008, 7:47 PM Randall-in-Mpls Joined on 07-06-2007 Minneapolis, MN Posts 2,629 Re: crash bar identification  RichNCT wrote: I've thought about making some, but haven't yet. Rich, Did you ever make up some spacers, or do you have plans to?  Does anyone else have them available? Thanks, R '78 CX500 - Black Maggot --> Green Grub / Yellow Grub / Red Grub ???    Report

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