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   01-06-2010, 5:44 AM
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What bullshit
I hope Al Gore gets stranded somewhere in it


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PWG,

I imagine you brought this up because it's so freaking COLD everywhere ?

First off I don't blame you for feeling that way cuz it SUCKSSSSSSSSSS !

BUT, the glaciers ARE melting which means temps have to be rising on an AVERAGE, so Global Warming HAS to be taking place, it only makes sense.

But an AVERAGE temperature rise by a few degrees doesn't necessarily mean we're gonna have NO or warmer winters. The effect it's going to have is in how it AFFECTS the weather patterns we see, and how long and strong the storm systems are...the prediction is that they will be worse, which is kind of what we're seeing this winter.

No I'm no meteorologist or know it all, this is just the way I understand the situation.
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ahh come on now its the middle of winter here normally it gets to be around 35 in the days and lows of 10 to single digits but as of late the highs are around 65 and lows of 32 so i have to say something is happening and he have had a very dry winter as of now

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Look, the average global temp has actually gone down a degree. That’s why you hear climate change now instead of global warming. Every continent goes through cyclical changes in temperature, the poles are no different. The way the plates shift they say north America will be a winter wonderland in 13,000 years. All this climate change crap is the biggest hoax that has ever been pulled on the world. This cap and trade bill is designed to pry your hard earned money out of your pockets. a lot of people think that the tax is going to come from big companies, wrong, it’s just like in the late 80’s when the government levied huge taxes on the evil tobacco companies for the good of the consuming public. All that happened was that the manufactures raised the price on cigarettes to offset the tax burden forced on them and the little people ended up doling out the money. Its going the be the same thing with the cap and trade, the manufactures will turn the increased cost of production around on the little man and still keep their profits. With all the lies that are being uncovered about global warming and the research being done, I can’t believe that anyone still takes gore seriously. Why do people think he won’t openly debate his beliefs. Since when has it become normal to trust the government. Happy New Year!!! It’s going to be a white knuckler!!


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 rickbert wrote:
BUT, the glaciers ARE melting which means temps have to be rising on an AVERAGE, so Global Warming HAS to be taking place, it only makes sense. But an AVERAGE temperature rise by a few degrees doesn't necessarily mean we're gonna have NO or warmer winters. The effect it's going to have is in how it AFFECTS the weather patterns we see, and how long and strong the storm systems are...the prediction is that they will be worse, which is kind of what we're seeing this winter. No I'm no meteorologist or know it all, this is just the way I understand the situation.


Rick, the question isn't really if warming has occurred, it's whether you or I pumping carbon in the atmosphere has anything to do with it, or if the warming is an anomaly that must be human induced.

Glaciers have been melting for 13000 years.  Where I sit today was under 2000 feet of ice 10,000 years ago.

The fools at the UN, mr Gore, the CRU, told us that as carbon rises, the temperature will rise.  10 years later, we can see this.



All the while Carbon levels keep going up.


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It is now officially fact. The Arctic is warming. The seal population is dying off rapidly. Where masses of ice once were, there are now rocks. Some glaciers are just gone! See, it is right here in this report. http://docs.lib.noaa.gov/rescue/mwr/050/mwr-050-11-0589a.pdf
Oh, my bad. That report’s dated October 10, 1922. So why are there still seals and glaciers 87.5 years later?
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HAHAHA!
Must have been all those seal farts depleting the ozone!

And oh my, the temperature today in NW Indiana was 25 degrees. It sure isn't like it was 48 years ago when it was -5 on this day......or 45 years ago when it was 61 degrees on this day.
Hmmm...could it be that weather changes on a daily basis? Nah, it must be the new Ice Age from the 80s, or maybe Global Warming or possibly Climate Change. Where do I send some money to buy carbon credits?

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lucky,

I just looked up Kingman AZ and it shows the NORMAL high for this time of year is 54 degrees.
Your 7 day forcast shows mid 50s.

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I heard that there are places in the USA, today, that are colder than Antarctica. Well, it is summer down there.
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George you can Paypal your carbon credit money to my account. I'll turn off a few lights and keep the car in the garage tomorrow. That should be worth $25 shouldn't it?
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If I send you $30 could you possibly save a polar bear for me too?

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Yah, and the so called scientists are still wearing bow ties. F**k them all. send me some heat. Central America is looking better all the time.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><table width="85%"><tr><td class="txt4"><img src="/cs/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif">&nbsp;<strong>George in Indiana wrote:</strong></td></tr><tr><td class="quoteTable"><table width="100%"><tr><td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4">If I send you $30 could you possibly save a polar bear for me too?</td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>
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It SNOWED in FLORIDA.

There's your Man Made Global Warming in action.

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Global warming or cooling equals Climate Change,,there is no argument about the rising levels of CO2, whether it is man made or a natural occurance is in question, lets see in 50 years what is the result,, hell, why not let  the smoke stacks  keep pumping out the carbon, an experiment to accelerate the results.
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Co2 also has peaks and valleys of its concentration  in the Earth’s atmosphere. Goes up during the winter months and goes down during the summer months due to the process of photosynthesis. Yeah humans add to the amount of carbon in the atmosphere, but the amount in the last 180 years it had gone up is 103 ppm. And who is to say that has nothing to do with natural phenomenon, or cyclical? Before we start shouting that the sky is falling, there needs to be more study and open forums on both sides of this issue. I for one think that we are getting the wool pulled over our eyes to line the pockets of power hungry environmentalist wack jobs. Most Global Warming reports make it sound like most of the atmosphere is made of carbon dioxide. In fact, it is only 0.03% (and seasonally variable). Actually, water vapor (another Green House gas) forms a larger percentage (0 to 4%) and completely swamps the effect of CO2 (except when it is very cold and/or very dry). artic website crysophere today reported that artic ice volume was 500,000 sq km greater than this time last year. Additionally, Antartic sea ice this year reached its highest level since satellite records began in 1979. Polar bear numbers are also at record levels.


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I wonder if the chicken littles have always existed in society?
We heard how global warming was responsible for the batch of hurricanes a few years ago.
What were they blaming all that tornado activity on 100 years ago? What was to blame for the tri-state tornado of 1925 that ran over 200 miles and killed nearly 700 people?

And of course we now have to condemn CO2, a by product of living...oh yeah and every car made since 1975 with a catalytic converter produces CO2. Nothing underlying about that eh?

In the 1980's it was hairspray causing the "new ice age".
Then freon and methane from cow gas causing "global warming".
Now it's CO2 causing "climate change".

Maybe we should be reducing mind altering drugs like Ritalin which is producing a generation of obedient sheeples that buy into everything Big Brother tells them.

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Well the debate can go on and on as to whether global warming is occuring or not....and I have no problem with that at all.

However, the one thing that a few people here just do not seem to get no matter how many times it's said and repeated:

Global Warming DOES NOT MEAN that you're gonna be hotter all the time and you're gonna feel a couple degree temperature rise and the winters are going to be gone......AND THE SNOW IN FLORIDA DOES NOT MEAN THAT GLOBAL WARMING IS NOT OCCURING.

Only thing "average global temp changes" will cause is a change in weather patterns.

So people PLEASE quit saying that Global Warming is bullshit SIMPLY BECAUSE it's been cold this winter and it's snowing in Florida.

I have no problem with debating whether Global Warming is occuring or not....but PLEASE don't keep saying that it's NOT occuring because of the winter we've had so far because IF it IS occuring the winter we are having is a product of it.
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I have no problem with debating whether Global Warming is occuring or not....but PLEASE don't keep saying that it's NOT occuring because of the winter we've had so far because IF it IS occuring the winter we are having is a product of it.


See that's one of the big problems Rick.   "deniers" saying Snow in FL is proof there is no warming, get derided by "warmers", yet every time there is a hurricane, tornado, heat wave in NYC or wildfire in CA the "warmers" and the MSM without fail contribute it to climate change.

You can't have it both ways.



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"Maybe we should be reducing mind altering drugs like Ritalin which is producing a generation of obedient sheeples that buy into everything Big Brother tells them. "

Right George, but I think the "Global Warming" issue is indicative of a larger problem. Anyone who was schooled in this country after the 1960s possibly got a liberal biased education. Someone subjected to the subconcious propaganda of the left is less cabable of independent thought or rational non-subjective analysis.
When Al Gore says, "The debate is over," when it clearly is not, he destroys his own credibility (as if he ever had any.) For decades, we older folks had to watch ABC, NBC, and CBS for all of our news and just in the last 10 or 15 years have we had the fresh perspective of a fair and balanced news organization. That, along with the rise of talk radio, gives the rest of us conservatives hope that eventually you who are younger will begin to see issues and events with a more open mind. Until that happens, our country and our freedoms are in jeopardy.
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26 years old here in WARMING UP Florida, and I'm glad to say I've seen through the bullshit 'education' the public school systems try to indoctrinate into a body.

The ice cores in Antarctica show without any shadow of a doubt that the CO2 levels of this planet operate in a very cyclic way, and have been for the past 200+ thousand years.

The fact of the matter is, if the planet were warming up in a 'Global Warming' trend (which incidentally, is known now as 'global climate change' aka 'we were wrong and are too stupid to admit our own cluelessness') there is NO reason we would have a colder than usual winter here.   The amount of energy input that would be required to change the average temperature of the earth even 1 degree C would surely show an average rise in oceanic temperatures, which regulate most of the weather on this little peninsula I live on.

Truth be told, we're overdue for another ICE age.   Go look at the ice core records - it's all in there.

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Global warming is bullshit

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Now wait a minute !
What about springtime???
It is still coming, isn't it?
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Global warming is bullshit.  It's just a ploy to redistribute wealth by forcing us all to use solar panels and windmills and tide water generators and methane power from land fills.  And where do we buy all these windmills and solar panels from?  Hardly any companies make them.  Walmart doesn't sell them.  What bullshit.  Arab oil is plentiful as is American money.  "Pollution" is just another word invented by liberals who hate oil profits.

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Can it be possible? A voice of reason from San Francisco? You must feel all alone out there.
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Right!  I don't let useless things like "facts" get in the way of reason.  "Facts" are just another liberal invention used to drown out voices of reason.

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It's the information age and the "talking heads" rule.  CNN, MSNBC, all three of the major networks, they're all full of shit and here are a few examples from the last 10 years:

Y2K = The world was supposed to come to and end!!!!  (I know a guy that still has 85 cases of MRE's in his basement from that one)

THE GREAT DUCT TAPE SCARE 2001 = They told us to duct tape the crap out our homes to protect us from a Haji "dirty bomb"  (Same guy has 44 rolls)

BIRD FLU = We're all going to die!!!!

SWINE FLU = We're all going to die AGAIN!!!

CLIMATE CHANGE = The world is supposed to come to and end AGAIN !!!!

News flash to all these morons...... None of us are going to get out of here alive, so quite trying to scare the shit of the faint at heart for ratings and money for your favorite lunatic supporters!!!

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I don't know why we are supposed to live in a constant "State of Fear" but I just can't get too excited about all these threats. I guess after hearing doom and gloom for most of my almost 60 years I have become "Comfortably Numb". People are always trying to feel more important than they really are I guess. Anyone who buys all the crap the media and the politicians and the "scientists" spew is a tool. Want to know who benefits? Follow the money.

Something else to consider... if the ice all melts the sea will not rise like they say. The extra weight of all that water will press the sea bed down and dry land up and if anything, the oceans will be deeper. I seriously doubt all the cities are going to be under water. Life IS change, deal with it.

Actually massive climate change like ice ages etc has taken place numerous times in earths' history. It has to do with our suns' position relative to the spiral "arms" of the milky way galaxy. When we are traveling between the arms we have an ice age, when we are traveling through an arm we have a hot house. Really. All those other "suns" give off a bunch of heat too. Our solar system is traveling across the galaxy. Hard to sell a panic about that though.







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Something I don't understand. Explain it to me if you can.

Given that the overall average temperature of the Earth has been increasing for some time now (although it still isn't as hot as it was in the '30s) and that all of these supposedly intelligent people believe that the temperature increase is caused by activities of mankind, how much pollution must we be producing to cause the temperatures on Mars to rise & fall in synch with temperatures here?

It's solar activity, folks. The temperatures here (& on Mars) rise in years of higher solar activity and fall in years of lower solar activity.

I've said it before: Pollution is bad and we should do what we can to make less of a mess in our nest. But don't lie about the causes of climate change to scare us into doing something about pollution.

Oh, and as for the polar bears and the glaciers: We are nearing the end of long period of cold. 5,000 years ago the Sahara bloomed and there were lions & hippos in England. Sea levels were not significantly higher than they are now. Then the world became colder and a substantial amount of the available fresh water was trapped in glaciers so large areas became desert.
The world is returning to normal. Glaciers are melting. Sea levels are not rising, but in a few hundred years there will be enough arable land to feed the world.
The polar bear population will either shrink to fit the remaining habitat (like the loin & hippo populations did when it got colder) or they will go the way of the dodo. Either way, it will be the result of natural processes.

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I'd say we aren't returning to "normal" Bob. Normal historically, and I mean geologically not human history, the planet was much much colder for much longer periods of time.

There have been warmings in the past, but they were relatively shorter in duration than the cold periods, and we pretty much are due for the next cold.


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Yeah. I guess it wasn't warm for very long in the time of the dinosaurs.....
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Yeah. I guess it wasn't warm for very long in the time of the dinosaurs.....


Look for yourself from the Vostok core records:  Over 400,000 years




What the last 15,000 years looks like






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Here in Alaska we do see effects of warming, where I live in Wasilla it has been for many years the "Official" start of the Iditarod sled dog race, it hasn't been here for years because of lack of snow and has had to be moved north where there is more snow on the ground. And when I moved here in 1992 I saw winters that had usually at least two weeks of -40 with 6 weeks of -20, not so any more, the coldest this winter was barely -15F and was only for a few days in december, our coldest month is usually january and this year it was WAAAY too warm, barely below zero at times, and no snow.

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No snow in Alaska, but we have snow in central Florida?  LOL, that's pretty funny, really.

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Is anyone here saying that pumping tons of pollution into the air has no effect on the enviroment?

Just checking.
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Sigh,

Maybe I can explain things a bit.

First of all, we are experiencing global warming, however much you believe we contribute to it.

The best analogy I can come up with is this:

Maybe you have a relative quite a few years ago that had a refrigerator that didn't use electricity. Instead they had a icebox in the refrigerator that would take a cube of ice that the iceman would deliver. The point is what kept the food cool was the ice as it melted.

What is currently keeping the planet from becoming a lot hotter is all the ice melting from the poles and glaciers. Because the ocean currents and the sun contribute to the distribution of the cooler water, this is why we are experiencing the weather that we are going through.

You don't believe in global warming? Wait till enough ice has vanished like in the refrigerator and see what happens.

The earth will survive as well as mother nature. We just may not like what it turns into...
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Looks cyclical to me.

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 mikeinpittsburgh wrote:
Is anyone here saying that pumping tons of pollution into the air has no effect on the enviroment?


The environment yes. Climate change no.

As I said before: We need to make every effort to stop fouling our own nest. But blaming a natural phenomenon (see the graphs posted by Abe) on pollution in order to scare them into action won't do anyone any good in the long run. People will eventually see through the lie and then won't be inclined to deal with the real problem. And yes, the world is getting warmer. Instead of chasing rainbows in the belief that we can change that we need to deal with it. Our ancestors did just fine in the last warm period and we can too, as long as we haven't poisoned the world too much to live in it by then.

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=5086

http://www.mcculloughsite.net/stingray/2006/06/13/al-gore-and-some-inconvenient-truths-about-global-warming.php
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 mrcuiser wrote:
Sigh, Maybe I can explain things a bit. First of all, we are experiencing global warming, however much you believe we contribute to it. The best analogy I can come up with is this: ...


You might want to find a better analogy.  No offense but that is retarded and unfounded in science.




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With all the news of the corrupt research spewing forth out of the government funded research parties, one would have to have a cult like adoration for the government to not question the motives behind this. you can gladly taste the punch first. All the money pouring into these “scientists” research funds keep them employed.  Do you think that the findings they might come up with might just keep the paychecks coming? Bottom line is, the government is trying to grab control of every aspect of our lives. They believe that we are too stupid to take care of ourselves and need big brother to swoop in and make everything better. When has the government made anything better? Unless if you count ww1 & 2 when we as a country actually had nuts and made a difference to the well being of our citizens and the world. Now it seems that politicians and government seem to think we are here to serve the big machine and grease its wheels instead of serving the people who actually make this country great, the people. These people are not royalty. They were elected to serve us! There is absolutely no proof that we are affecting the climate. I mean, didn’t the research’s unit at   East Anglia  shredding research documents and data tip you off that something is rotten. Like I said before, since when has it become the norm to trust the government. just because people think that no one would try to pull a hoax like this, doesn’t mean they wouldn’t. there are people with agendas out there that want only one thing, power. What better way to do that than make a whole lot of people dependant on you to decide what light bulb you can buy, what food you can eat, what kind of health care will be provided to you, what you can pay your employees and all the other fun things the party in power has in store for us. It’s just a hoax that will make people feel guilty enough to support the cap and tax bill. You think it’s tough to make a living now, just pray that these bills on the table don’t get through. If you want to turn off a light bulb or two in your house, go for it, save some money. I do it for that reason. Just remember that turning them on keeps people employed.   


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 Doward wrote:
No snow in Alaska, but we have snow in central Florida?  LOL, that's pretty funny, really.


El Nino year.  Vancouver "Winter" Olympics are having the same issue.  They are building up ski runs on Cypress with hay and wood, trucking in snow from 2 hours away.



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One wonders whether it wouldn't be cheaper & easier to ship the skiers 2 hours away to where the snow is..... ;-)

Did the folks who awarded Vancouver the games know about normal wet coast "winters" and take a chance that, since they got dumped on the last few years (Van got more snow than TO winter of '07-08), there would be enough snow for outdoor winter activities? Or did they just think "It's in Canada. They have snow all year."?
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You can usually ski on cypress easily into March.  The lack of snow this year is certainly an anomaly.  And your right, last year they had too much snow/cold.



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Go look up polar shift it happen about 9500 to 1200 years apart we are doing that now
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Should have been 12000years
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Technically we have been in global warming since the ice age!
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Good point.

BTW: One of our localpapers recently ran a 2 page spread about Global Cooling. Here we go again.

It really blows meaway that these so called scinetists can't remember what the weather was like 20 years ago, or at least look it up.
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Sigh...

Unfounded in science..

Like I said in my earlier post, we are contributing to global warming, however much you believe we actually contribute to it. Has the earth gone though massive climate changes over the eons? Of course it has, right down to discovering that Antarctica had quite the warm climate some time ago. The point is that outside of the occasional meteor or a helluva bunch of volcanic eruptions, the changes that the earth has gone through have taken by our perspective an incredibly long time.The climate at this time is changing on a massive scale at a very rapid rate. Can't say I remember the last time glaciers were disappearing with the core samples dating 100,000 years ago and at this time in the Pacific Northwest, we are getting green colored water year round due to the glacier melt and the unique minerals that wash away in the rivers.

Unfounded in science? You must be depending on the same 'scientists' that said that there is no danger whatsoever in smoking cigarettes or asbestos.

I cannot see any harm in getting the hell away from fossil fuels when we are still at a war that made a relative of mine handicapped for life and his father commit suicide.
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I read somewhere recently that estimating a trend in worldwide mean temperature change based on a century and a half of recorded climate information is like looking at the sky for 18 seconds and predicting that the sun will shine on you for the entire 24 hours of the day and clouds will never block it.

Any scientist who hasn't jumped on the funding bandwagon will tell you that there just isn't enough information to form an opinion, let alone a theory.

But as I have asked several times in this thread: If climate change on Earth is caused by pollution, why does the NASA date indicate that the temperature of Mars increases & decreases in step with the temperature of Earth? How can pollution on Earth have any effect on Mars?

Answer: The temperature changes are also in step with levels of solar activity. When there are more solar flares the sun produces more heat and the planets warm up. All of them.
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