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Started by ramprat06 at 03-02-2010 9:09 PM. Topic has 14 replies.
 
 
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03-02-2010, 9:09 PM
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ramprat06

Joined on 03-22-2006
Vancouver WA USA
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Hi gang, since it looks like my carbs are on their way back from Larry (god bless you guy! ) and FloaterDave (edit to say God bless you too my buddy) is gunna come over this weekend to help me put my baby back together, I wanted to know what may be the best for my radiator.
My 82CXcustom has never had anything done to the radiator, other than some top offs, and one lame flush on the bike, water only.
It's in visually great shape, but I know there must be some stuff after all these years. Since it is off the bike now, could I use some CLR to clean it out with? Like a mix of 50/50 and seal both ends to let it sit....then clean rinse with water several times? Or are there other ways to do this more safely for the material.
"okay not the first" Joel
May the multitude of wheels in your head always control the two wheels between your legs.
1982 CX500 custom. 99% stock. 3rd owner New to me, Spring '03 ~7k miles Now, ~23k miles Age 55
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03-02-2010, 10:35 PM
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Blindstitch

Joined on 03-14-2009
Greenfield Wisconsin
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That should do the job.
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03-03-2010, 12:47 AM
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Dan

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I read on another post that a 50/50 water/vinegar mixture can also be used to clean up a rad. (left to sit for a night and then emptied) Which is more recommended? And are there any particular radiator coolants that I should look out for? Or is any "light truck/passenger car/aluminum friendly" brand fine for my bike? Thanks,
1981 Gl500 I (first bike)
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03-03-2010, 1:30 AM
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spanish bandit

Joined on 02-12-2009
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Dan wrote: | I read on another post that a 50/50 water/vinegar mixture can also be used to clean up a rad. (left to sit for a night and then emptied) Which is more recommended? And are there any particular radiator coolants that I should look out for? Or is any "light truck/passenger car/aluminum friendly" brand fine for my bike? Thanks,
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hey dan,vinegar is equally as good plus a lot cheaper
when i feel the need,i do it,llego,ve 60,s -----------------------------  2008.1982 honda gli silverwing [uk model ] 2010.1981 honda gli silverwing [uk model ]
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03-03-2010, 3:40 AM
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Shep

Joined on 01-30-2007
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You can use a full 100% Vinegar mix for soaking a rad.Just bung up the holes.Fill with Vinegar,agitate and leave overnight.Then forward and back flush with a garden hose the next day.I re-paint my Rad fins with High temp Black BBQ Aerosol paint  The 50/50 mix was for flushing when the RAD is in but I see no reason not to use 100% now as this system as never let me down.I used to use advanced coolant but now don't bother and just use stock car coolant from the supermarket changed every two years or quicker as it's easy with my,"In-bike" mech seal replacement should a problem arise with my mech seals which it hasn't for over 6 years and many thousands of miles.
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03-03-2010, 3:46 AM
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roadster5580
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Atlanta, GA
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I love the many uses for vinegar suggested on this forum. Yes it will work, but damn how bad is the economy? There are plenty of products on the market for cleaning today's modern plastic/aluminum radiators and motorcycle carbs that work much better and faster than vinegar. Every time I read about the use of vinegar on this forum, I laugh and think -- if you are either so broke or cheap as to have to use vinegar to clean your carbs or radiator, sell the damn bike --- you REALLY need the money for something else. Yes... shops did use vinegar once upon a time .... on model T's. They also used black pepper to stop water leaks, saw dust in the crank to quiet down a worn engine, and moth balls as an octane booster.
In all the years I've either worked or hung out in garages,
never once have I ever seen any vinegar sitting around. What the hell
shop has time to leave a customers carbs or radiator soaking in vinegar
over night, much less three days? I did see several gallons once in my grandpa's garage, but he lived so far back in the woods of Kentucky, even the hillbillies considered him strange. Turned out he was storing it for grandma to make pickles the next summer.
I will admit to still using EZ-Off oven cleaner as a de-greaser/carb cleaner, but I gave up using End-Dust long ago and started using Armor-All on the seat and tires. Grandpa always said to use pig tallow or lard and it is much cheaper, but it's hard to find anymore.
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03-03-2010, 3:50 AM
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Shep

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03-03-2010, 3:53 AM
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roadster5580
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Re: Radiator question
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Love vinegar and oil as a salad dressing!! I'm thinking about trying Tabasco sauce as a de-greaser/carb cleaner. There's always some up in the breakroom and I know it sure cleans me out!!!
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03-03-2010, 4:12 AM
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Shep

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roadster5580 wrote: | Love vinegar and oil as a salad dressing!! I'm thinking about trying Tabasco sauce as a de-greaser/carb cleaner. There's always some up in the breakroom and I know it sure cleans me out!!!
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Heh Heh.Tabasco sauce may be good for taking calcium fur off alloy parts 
A table spoon of Baking powder/soda (Bi-Carbonate of Soda)left on a saucer in your helmet overnight will remove any nasty odours 
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03-03-2010, 7:28 AM
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Matt_the_Rat

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Northwest FL
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Using black pepper to stop a rad leak still works. the trick is to beat up an egg and pour that into the rad too, with engine running thermostat open. Black pepper stop leak omelette.
I have found that the cleaning chems of today are too safety orientated. The carb dip solvents of today do not even completely destroy the rubber o rings anymore. In the old days of you got that stuff on your hands, your skin would peel off for days afterwards. Over the counter rad flushes have NERVER worked worth a darn.
The low pH of vinegar breaks up scale and build up much better than the $12 flush kits.
Most specialized automotive degreasers are
made weak so they are totally idiot proof.
By the way, soaking a penny in tabasco sauce will make shine like new, so maybe a few drops in the tank will keep them carbs sparkly clean.
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03-03-2010, 10:18 AM
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Abes_CW

Joined on 04-17-2007
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roadster5580 wrote: | I will admit to still using EZ-Off oven cleaner as a de-greaser/carb cleaner, but I gave up using End-Dust long ago and started using Armor-All on the seat and tires.
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Say what? You use armorall on your seat AND TIRES? on a motorcycle? I tend to enjoy staying on my seat, and keeping the shiny side up, but that's just me.
1983 GL650i Had 4 CX/GL's at one point this year, down to one, next spring is another adventure!
age 38 (29 plus tax)
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03-03-2010, 10:37 AM
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Blindstitch

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Armor-All is Bad. Keep it off the tires.
Abes if you use armor-all on the tires most likely the shiny side will be up. but the wrong one.
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03-03-2010, 12:16 PM
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roadster5580
Joined on 01-18-2008
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Re: Radiator question
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Ugh... you don't exactly coat the whole tire with Armor-All. Besides that, how
many tire revolutions do think it would last if you did? People actually use Armor-All as a tire lube, ever notice how sticky it makes
rubber?
As for sliding off the back seat ... you guys must have your bikes tuned way better than any CX or GL500 I've ever seen. It's tough enough to get one to do a wheelie, much less send you flying of the back seat during a hole shot with their notorious rocket like acceleration. Besides, that's why they call them a sissy bar.
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03-03-2010, 3:29 PM
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Shep

Joined on 01-30-2007
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03-07-2010, 4:21 PM
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Sidecar Bob

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Tire lube??????????? Who in their right mind would come up with a concept like that????????? A muffler bearing salesman?
I would never use any product like that on the sidewalls of tires. The first time it rains that stuff will wash onto the tread and lubricate it just enough for you to find out why tires should never be lubricated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And I won't even mention the way Armor All attacks some plastics. Throw it out before you wreck something with it.
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