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Started by TheCrusher1234 at 02-22-2010 5:47 PM. Topic has 27 replies.
 
 
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02-22-2010, 5:47 PM
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TheCrusher1234

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for reasons i won't go into my gas tank exploded today. i need a new one but don't know if there are other brands that will fit. anyone know?
1981 GL500 Silver Wing rigid conversion / 79 cx tank / rat bike
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02-22-2010, 6:18 PM
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Blindstitch

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Did you try to pull a dent out with a magna spot without removing gas fumes?
If so I want to see pictures because I didn't save the ones of the last guy who blew up a tank.
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02-22-2010, 6:40 PM
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TheCrusher1234

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yeah well heres what happened. i spent 6 hours at work grinding off the 5 layers of paint on the tank. there were 2 gnarly dents on the right side that i wanted to pull out with a dent puller before i repainted. a guy i work with told me that he had luck pushing a dent out from the back with air pressure. he heated the dent with a oxy torch. there was still fumes in the tank and they ignited, shot a 5 foot flame out the fill hole. he then let the smoke clear and shot 150 psi of shop air into the tank... then i got a call saying i should come out and take a look.
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1981 GL500 Silver Wing rigid conversion / 79 cx tank / rat bike
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02-22-2010, 7:14 PM
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Spacetiger

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Well that sucks.
Looked at the pics, that tank is toast. Love the way they expand but don't seem to rupture . I contribute this to good design practices.
I noted the tank looked stripped of paint. Losing the tank after this incident makes it double painfull.
So, whats the plan now? Another stock tank? or another type?
Jerry
90 PC 800 (commuting steed) 82 GL500I (50+mpg, great bike)
66 BMW R 50/2 (No brakes/HP) 80 CX500C (Loved this bike) 74 CB360 (Fun; but too small) 79 CX500D (40,000+ mi in 3 years) 76 CB550 (step up from 200cc) 74 KZ200 (1st bike!)
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02-22-2010, 7:19 PM
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TheCrusher1234

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yeah i spent 12 hours total stripping off 5 layers of paint. i'm looking for another tank. i'm open to different tanks if i can find a cool one that fits.
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02-22-2010, 7:21 PM
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residentdud

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'81 CX500C caffeinated '72 CB350F restore
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02-22-2010, 7:24 PM
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residentdud

Joined on 10-12-2009
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That's awesome BTW. Too bad you ruined the tank but I bet it was pretty cool.
'81 CX500C caffeinated '72 CB350F restore
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02-22-2010, 7:43 PM
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Spacetiger

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Well,
I don't know if its cool, but I think the load in your buddy's pants after the bang must have been "cool".
:-)
90 PC 800 (commuting steed) 82 GL500I (50+mpg, great bike)
66 BMW R 50/2 (No brakes/HP) 80 CX500C (Loved this bike) 74 CB360 (Fun; but too small) 79 CX500D (40,000+ mi in 3 years) 76 CB550 (step up from 200cc) 74 KZ200 (1st bike!)
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02-22-2010, 7:54 PM
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Blindstitch

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That's great. Looks exactly like what happened to the last guy. Next time remember stripper and to remove the fumes. I almost want one but I'm not willing to blow up one of my tanks.
1979 CX500 Supertanker ATGATT makes riding a bike like a sled easier.
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02-22-2010, 7:56 PM
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TheCrusher1234

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yeah i wasn't too mad when it happened. then it sunk in how much time i spent on the tank and i got a little sad.
1981 GL500 Silver Wing rigid conversion / 79 cx tank / rat bike
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02-22-2010, 8:09 PM
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Blindstitch

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Not to kick you but I started a post in the customize section because I can upload pictures there and they won't disappear. Hopefully good tips will be posted there to keep this from happening again.
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02-22-2010, 8:30 PM
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TheCrusher1234

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the best advice i can give on this is to NEVER let anyone come near a freshly drained and cleaned gas tank with a oxy torch and an air chuck. use hammers, use the proper tools.
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02-22-2010, 8:31 PM
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TheCrusher1234

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btw i found a tank for a magna on ebay. think it will fit?
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02-22-2010, 9:23 PM
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Blindstitch

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Not sure. Not may tanks have been posted to fit the gl.
I would be almost curious if the goldwing plastic tank would fit. It has a shell cover that goes over it. Are you going for the stock look or a heavily modded bike.
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02-22-2010, 9:32 PM
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pwtsvwt

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You might take a look at the 1980's and 90's NightHawk tanks. They seem to be very similar, with the same front and rear mounting styles, and the side cover "mate & mount".
Bought on Craigslist - Restored from Ebay: 82 GL500I - now without the "I" -------------------------------------------------------------- I had all my ducks in a row, but they wondered off!
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02-22-2010, 9:34 PM
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TheCrusher1234

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i'm looking for a stripped look. minimalism. i found a cm400 tank that looks like it has the same mounting. i'm gonna hit the junkyard either tomorrow or on the weekend. if i can find a gl tank that would be fine but like i said before. i am open to other options.
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02-22-2010, 10:54 PM
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Blindstitch

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Just so you don't feel like the only one. http://choppercharles.com/cs/forums/69947/showPost.aspx
The pictures are gone but the statements is the same. Maybe if I find a really rusty one I'll blow it up. I know what I would do if it was my tank. I would give it a good scuffing and spray a clearcoat on it so it wouldn't rust. I'd probably mount it on my living room wall. Wouldn't that piss melody off.
I have a painted one sitting in a stand in the living room and another in the corner near the easel waiting for a decorative paint job from Melody. She wanted to give it a try. Got the damn thing powder coated black just to learn there were pinholes in it.
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02-23-2010, 10:40 AM
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TheCrusher1234

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I'm gonna hang it in my garage. a guy i work with restores bikes and has a 650 tank hes going to bring in and i'll see if it fits. it has a dent but i think i'll either bondo it or leave it the f alone
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02-23-2010, 11:29 AM
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Abes_CW

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GL650 tanks are exactly the same Crusher.
1983 GL650i Had 4 CX/GL's at one point this year, down to one, next spring is another adventure!
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02-23-2010, 11:42 AM
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TheCrusher1234

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yeah small adendum to that. its a kawasaki 650. I doubt it will fit but I've never been one to turn down free stuff. he gave me a set of bars off the same bike that fit perfectly.
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02-23-2010, 2:38 PM
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Sams GL 650

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I'm Glad no one was seriously hurt.
I;ve seen a little bit of gas cause a lotta bit of fire. sam
Bikes: 2002 Kawasaki Vulcan 1983 Honda GL 650 1 st Bike Honda CL 175 (1974) Age 52
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02-24-2010, 5:49 PM
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TheCrusher1234

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update: got a free tank from a guy at work. its for a yamaha 650. didn't even come close to fitting. going to the junkyard this weekend to get one for a gl too bad too i liked the yamaha one.
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02-24-2010, 6:09 PM
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Spacetiger

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Are you going to try and keep her stock?
I ask because you have an 81 GL; they didn't make alot of them. The highest 81 serial prduction number I have seen is 004610. For the 82 model year, the highest GL serial production number I have seen is 112743.
Does anyone have a higher 81 GL serial production number?
Jerry
90 PC 800 (commuting steed) 82 GL500I (50+mpg, great bike)
66 BMW R 50/2 (No brakes/HP) 80 CX500C (Loved this bike) 74 CB360 (Fun; but too small) 79 CX500D (40,000+ mi in 3 years) 76 CB550 (step up from 200cc) 74 KZ200 (1st bike!)
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02-24-2010, 9:13 PM
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TheCrusher1234

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Re: gas tank question.
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my serial number is 002204. so its older. i wish i could find the actual build date cuz i have a theory. i bought this bike because it was an 81 that i am pretty sure was made in 1980. the year i was born. so this bike is literally as old as i am.
i have no interest in keeping this bike stock. i have the entire electrical system pulled loose and am going to fab a cubby to hide it all. the bars are not stock. i am relocating the battery box between the frame in front of the rear tire ( effectively turning it 90 degrees inward). i don't really want a stock tank but it all breaks down to what fits. when i'm done (if i'm ever done) this bike shouild look pretty sweet.
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02-24-2010, 9:22 PM
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Blindstitch

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If you look on the vin tag on the left side of the steering head it will tell the model and when it was built.
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02-24-2010, 9:28 PM
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Blindstitch

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Here's an example plate.

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03-07-2010, 3:46 PM
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Blindstitch wrote: | | I would be almost curious if the goldwing plastic tank would fit. It has a shell cover that goes over it. |
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What year 'Wing are you thinking of?
4 cylinder 'Wings have metal tanks inside the frame below the seat...........
Mr. Honda ('83 GL1000/Dnepr) summer The Famous Eccles ('84 GX650EI/Velorex700) winter WHY I HAVEN"T BEEN AROUND MUCH LATELY
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03-07-2010, 5:59 PM
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Blindstitch

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That's what I was thinking of till I looked at some parts schematics.
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