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Started by RichNCT at 02-17-2010 1:52 PM. Topic has 32 replies.
  
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 02-18-2010, 12:41 AM
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spanish bandit
 
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02-18-2010, 8:16 AM
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Blindstitch
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Yeah the acid is probably american.
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02-18-2010, 12:02 PM
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Where do the chinese find enough lead? I thought they used it all in their children's toys.
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02-18-2010, 6:47 PM
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1978 CX500 - I live on a one-way street that's also a dead end. I'm not sure how I got here, or how I'm going to get out.
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02-18-2010, 9:21 PM
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DavidfromWisconsin
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Now do keep in mind that we are all here because we have Japanese motorcycles ... and I don't want to sell mine ...
David From Wisconsin ... R80Dave
'82 GL500I alias Candy
'82 GL500I alias Candy II
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02-19-2010, 5:19 AM
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roadster5580
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Interstate's production cost on that battery is probably about 80% less in China than on the same battery made in the USA because of the built-in "environmental cost". Nobody wants a battery plant in their back yard and who the hell would want to work there, even in theses economic times. You're probably never going to make it long enough to spend that 401K.
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02-19-2010, 6:53 AM
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George in Indiana
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So in other words, a few of you guys would have no problem with purchasing a China made car over an American, Japanese or German made car?
Or if you needed some type of medical implant such as a pacemaker, you'd happily settle for one made in China?
Many foreign companies such as Toyota have American divisions that build here, hire here, pay taxes and continue to reinvest and grow here. Any Chinese companies doing that in the US?
Even when something from China is made to a large corporation's specs, it's still trash. Just not quite as bad as the direct import trash from China (with the fake UL and CE stickers) that'll burn your house down or poison your kids and pets.
As far as a battery manufacturing plant in the US...the plant and entire work environment would be built to strict safety specs and OSHA and the EPA would be involved all the way. I'm a field tech and have to go into many industrial plants in my area including refineries and some of the biggest steel mills in the world. A one hour repair can easily be billed out at eight hours due to all the safety issues that need to be addressed. If you're caught putting yourself or someone else at risk for even a split second, you're leaving and not coming back. It's not the way it was in the 1920s or even the 1980s for that matter.
A new Bed, Bath and Beyond is opening in my area and there was a newspaper article from earlier this week on how hundreds of people showed up for interviews.
Open a battery manufacturing plant and I guarantee there would be thousands of people lined up for blocks. And those hired would be grateful to have a job to support their families with.
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02-19-2010, 8:51 AM
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roadster5580
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If you started today planning to build a battery plant, the process to get just the environmental impact study approved would take 5-7 years. Forget the other local permits and what's going to happen when CNN gets a hold of the news. Let's face it, the manufacturing processes that have a high degree of environmental liability have either moved or are going to be moved overseas. It is no longer economically viable to conduct these business operations in the US any longer due to environmental regulations. Might as well get use to it.
We can't even drill for the Billions of barrels of oil located just off our shore because of it. Instead we are slowly transferring the economic wealth of this country to the middle-eastern oil producers. No country can conquer the U.S. militarily in the foreseeable future, instead we will be conquered economically because we decided to regulate and tax ourselves into oblivion
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02-19-2010, 9:47 AM
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pappa
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Couldn't resist commenting this thread..
Yes, a lot of production has been moved over to China, and that will continue as long as the costs there are lower than here. And the quality of Chinese products is also getting better all the time. Some is still crap, but many are as good as anywhere else. I'm old enough to remember the time when all Japanese products were considered crap, but not anymore for a long time now.
In my opinion, this trend will continue until the standard of living in the Asian countries is about the same as in the western countries. Does this mean that their standard of living goes up or ours down, I don't know. Perhaps both.
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02-19-2010, 9:56 AM
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Blindstitch
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I have no problem with buying a made in china car as long as it's assembled by americans before it's shipped over.
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02-19-2010, 10:11 AM
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Abes_CW
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 Blindstitch wrote: | I have no problem with buying a made in china car as long as it's assembled by americans before it's shipped over.
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are you sure about that?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5SRyG6UR2A
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Had 4 CX/GL's at one point this year, down to one, next spring is another adventure!
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02-19-2010, 10:13 AM
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| Abes_CW wrote: | | Blindstitch wrote: | I have no problem with buying a made in china car as long as it's assembled by americans before it's shipped over.
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are you sure about that?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5SRyG6UR2A
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abes link...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5SRyG6UR2A
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02-19-2010, 10:36 AM
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Abes_CW
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| spanish bandit wrote: | | Abes_CW wrote: | | Blindstitch wrote: | I have no problem with buying a made in china car as long as it's assembled by americans before it's shipped over.
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are you sure about that?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5SRyG6UR2A
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abes link...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5SRyG6UR2A |
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You know if you keep doing that I'll never bother to learn to do it myself you know 
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02-19-2010, 10:44 AM
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Blindstitch
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02-19-2010, 11:20 AM
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AmericancClassic
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| Blindstitch wrote: | |
Yeah, but who heres gonna buy a smart car?
There plain junk. I like the idea of a greener future, and more eco friendly cars... but the smart car isnt the best solution.
In its size class I prefer the Yaris. Better car in almost every aspect. Cheaper, more usable interior space (smart car has a VERY poorly designed interior) An actual auto trans (smart has a automatically shifted manual, making for very uncomfortable shifts), you dont have to pay for service at a mercedes dealer, and finally the yaris has that really cool center mounted speedo.
But when it comes to America, Id love a Ford Fiesta.
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02-19-2010, 11:29 AM
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spanish bandit
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| Abes_CW wrote: | | spanish bandit wrote: | | Abes_CW wrote: | | Blindstitch wrote: | I have no problem with buying a made in china car as long as it's assembled by americans before it's shipped over.
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are you sure about that?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5SRyG6UR2A
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abes link...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5SRyG6UR2A |
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You know if you keep doing that I'll never bother to learn to do it myself you know
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i honestly thought you knew abes.i really thought it was your computor playing up.
basically 2 sets of brackets.............................or are you just pulling my leg....you know..dont you
ok,for anyone else.2 sets of brackets [ ] each side of the link you want to create live.
in front...[ url]
at the back[on the end] [/ur l].....the website will become a live link...................well thats what will told me take out the spaces...no gaps
when i feel the need,i do it,llego,ve 60,s
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02-19-2010, 11:29 AM
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| Blindstitch wrote: | |
That Smart at least was survivable. Legs would be mangled. The Chery the driver's head gets caught in the accordion of the roof.
IIHS rated it good here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz-s1sIoLhU
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02-19-2010, 11:33 AM
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spanish bandit
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| Abes_CW wrote: | | Blindstitch wrote: | |
That Smart at least was survivable. Legs would be mangled. The Chery the driver's head gets caught in the accordion of the roof.
IIHS rated it good here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz-s1sIoLhU
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abes link[until he learns how] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz-s1sIoLhU
when i feel the need,i do it,llego,ve 60,s
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02-19-2010, 4:04 PM
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Blindstitch
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I didn't even think the Yaris was in the smart car class. It seems in relation to size if the smart car was considered normal the Yaris would be a dump truck.
Ford Festivas or Fiestas as still a pretty unbeatable car and they seem to get a lot of miles if used right. My uncle put 250,000 on one from the 80's just to get into a car accident. He pulled the engine and put it into another one and I think he still has it. Rusty but trusty.
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02-19-2010, 4:28 PM
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George in Indiana
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The video of the China crash test shows a full size 4 door piece of shit collapsing like a dwarf star.
Then I see a mini car that went up against a car twice its size, bounced off and most likely kept the driver alive. If the point of posting that video was to show how well made that little sub mini car is, well done!
There are also many youtube videos showing how well they hold up in stationary hits.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz-s1sIoLhU
And here's one of my favorite Chinese crash test videos of a crew cab truck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D827IxEJVS4&NR=1
If you did the same test on a motorcycle with protective gear you'd at least stand a slim chance of living.
Only good thing about the China crap is that it'll be like all the imported go karts and DOT APPROVED scooters...hard to kill yourself in something that won't start.
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02-19-2010, 4:54 PM
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02-20-2010, 9:41 AM
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| Blindstitch wrote: | I didn't even think the Yaris was in the smart car class. It seems in relation to size if the smart car was considered normal the Yaris would be a dump truck.
Ford Festivas or Fiestas as still a pretty unbeatable car and they seem to get a lot of miles if used right. My uncle put 250,000 on one from the 80's just to get into a car accident. He pulled the engine and put it into another one and I think he still has it. Rusty but trusty.
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I guess it is a little bigger. Not by a lot, ad still has about the same gas mileage specs (the whole point of making it smaller right?) but your right, its a bit bigger.
Still tiny though.
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03-02-2010, 7:38 AM
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well to get back on topic i was just given a gel battery for free and so i am no longer running the walmart battery this gel battery is far better from what i can tell my friend got it out of his parents in laws bike before it was repoed from what i got told the battery cost about 130 dollars........so score for me..........
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03-02-2010, 7:52 AM
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Blindstitch
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Reported what?
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03-02-2010, 10:31 AM
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03-02-2010, 10:39 AM
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Blindstitch
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Oh repo that's totally different than what I was thinking. Harleys seem big for that right now.
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03-02-2010, 12:48 PM
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yea no kidding but there bike was a yamaha so i dont know i do know that it sat untouched for about 3 years and then it got the repo so yea......i put it in my bike and she fires right up i am like cool no charging it at all so i take it gel batteries are the best huh??
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03-11-2010, 1:54 AM
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![Ick! [+o(]](http://choppercharles.com/cs/emoticons/emotion-41.gif)
Re: Interstate Batteries
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Nothing against imports in general, I can defend German Cars, Japanese Bikes, Italian Cheese, French Wine, etc. when it comes to quality and lack of "national" (murky term these days) items which are of equal or better quality.
It's the sub par and downright dangerous imports that most rally against.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0F8x4i5GYE&feature=related
Fish and most seafood is best bought from North, Central and South American sources. The above report mentions Central American Tilapia, but that's just thrown in there for shock effect, most farmed fish, shrimp ect. from Central and South America is grown to higher than US standards. The real irony is that the Japanese buy the best of North American and European seafood at huge premiums, and to make up the product deficit, crap is imported from the other side of the world.
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03-11-2010, 5:59 AM
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The government hopes we "get used to it". That's part of the problem. They pass laws based on their agenda not ours. Wait till they get Cap and Trade and Health Care through. We will pay through the nose to ride our CO2 polluting old bikes. No I am not kidding.
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03-11-2010, 11:21 AM
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MX503 - you've got a PM and email.
1978 CX500 - I live on a one-way street that's also a dead end. I'm not sure how I got here, or how I'm going to get out.
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