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CX500 & CX650 Turbo Forum
Started by Pim206Gti at 04-08-2010 7:03 AM. Topic has 33 replies.
  
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 04-08-2010, 7:03 AM
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Pim206Gti
 
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Although this subject should belong on the "Selling and Buying Forum" I am putting it here because all my connections on this forum are Turbo related.
Honda Moly Paste stuff has become Unobtainium here in Europe. Honda has discontinued this product. Ofcourse it is possible to order it in the States but sofar I have only seen outrages shipping cost of around 40 dollars.
My question is can someone ( living in the States ) buy let say 3 units of 3 ounces and ship it with surface mail to Europe ?
My estatimate is that the total cost involved will be around 3 x $10 + $ 15 shipping.
Ofcourse payment will be upfront.
Thanks from a Turbo driver with a squicky back end 
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04-08-2010, 7:11 AM
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spanish bandit
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pimm,does mean its not available in the uk either?
shipping from there[if available] would be a lot cheaper
when i feel the need,i do it,llego,ve 60,s
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04-08-2010, 7:14 AM
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fastpakr
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Have you checked to see if you can get Loctite's moly paste? It's minimum 60% moly as well. Here's the MSDS data on it:
http://complyplus.grainger.com/grainger/msds.asp?sheetid=2968192
In the US, it's availble in an 8 oz can with a lid brush for about $30. Also as an aerosol or in larger canisters.
Alternatively, perhaps you could get Dupont Krytox locally?
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04-08-2010, 7:18 AM
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CXTURBOBOOST
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Doesn't need to be molly for the pro-link... I'm sure you have something there that will work...
I've had good luck with sil-glyde lubricant..
Im sure you have something over there that will work fine...
PK
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04-08-2010, 7:20 AM
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wildmanwill
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Spanish Bandit - David Silver has shown it as discontinued for about 6-8 months now.
Pim - I sent you an email through the forum.
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04-08-2010, 7:37 AM
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spanish bandit
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 wildmanwill wrote: | Spanish Bandit - David Silver has shown it as discontinued for about 6-8 months now.
Pim - I sent you an email through the forum.
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iv just been looking,you are correct ,,,nla
when i feel the need,i do it,llego,ve 60,s
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2010.1981 honda gli silverwing [uk model ]
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04-08-2010, 7:39 AM
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Pim206Gti
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Strangly enough all replacements for high Ms02 content Pastes are available in the States but not here in Europe in consumer quantities. 
I have found a Loctite here but I have to buy 1 Kilo , which is way to expensive and too much
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04-08-2010, 7:45 AM
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spanish bandit
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04-08-2010, 8:03 AM
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Pim206Gti
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I have looked at www.parkeryamaha.com already.
The problem is that these companies want proof that the package has arrived at the destination and therefore use the more expensive Track and Trace shipments which usualy starts at $40 to $50.
Honda CBX1000 A ( exploded in my garage )
Honda CX500 Turbo ( summer fun )
Honda CB450S ( cheap - winter fun )
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04-08-2010, 8:05 AM
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spanish bandit
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| Pim206Gti wrote: | I have looked at www.parkeryamaha.com already.
The problem is that these companies want proof that the package has arrived at the destination and therefore use the more expensive Track and Trace shipments which usualy starts at $40 to $50.
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ah i see,lets hope someone comes to your rescue
when i feel the need,i do it,llego,ve 60,s
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2008.1982 honda gli silverwing [uk model ]
2010.1981 honda gli silverwing [uk model ]
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04-08-2010, 8:38 AM
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wildmanwill
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I'm in the rescue business and have attempted to make contact.
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04-08-2010, 8:54 AM
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spanish bandit
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| wildmanwill wrote: | | I'm in the rescue business and have attempted to make contact. |
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double shifts then will
when i feel the need,i do it,llego,ve 60,s
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2008.1982 honda gli silverwing [uk model ]
2010.1981 honda gli silverwing [uk model ]
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04-08-2010, 6:09 PM
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Cobram
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Why don't you mix it yourself? I make my own molybdenum disulfide grease. You can buy 1/4 pound of pure Moly for around U$7.00 and mix it yourself with a good synthetic grease such as Mobil1. You'll find many other uses for the moly too, I add some to the engine oil of small equipment, use it as chain lube, exposed gear lube etc. 1/4 pound should last you 2 lifetimes, or you could mix up a big batch of moly grease and split the cost with your Euro-2 wheeled brethren.
1978 CX500 - I live on a one-way street that's also a dead end. I'm not sure how I got here, or how I'm going to get out.
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04-09-2010, 4:13 AM
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Pim206Gti
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| Cobram wrote: | Why don't you mix it yourself? I make my own molybdenum disulfide grease. You can buy 1/4 pound of pure Moly for around U$7.00 and mix it yourself
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1/4 Pound = 4 ounces --> 60% MoS2 --> 6 ounces of Moly Paste = 2 x ( 3 ounce cartridges of Honda Moly Paste) = $20
Oke you half the price but if it was up to me for that extra money I would prefer that it's already in a cartridge which I can put in my grease gun.
Also the same story as with the Moly Paste, sofar I have found here in Europe only commercial quanties ( 1 kilogram ) Molykote Micro Powder for sale here with a price tag of around $170 excl postage.That comes to $11 per 3 ounces
I also found 1 Kg of Molykote M77 paste for $313, which results in $26 per 3 ounces
I found on Ebay a 1/4 pound of MoS2 powder for $18 included shipment to Europe. Maybe worth a try, which results in $9 per 3 ounces
Honda CBX1000 A ( exploded in my garage )
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Honda CB450S ( cheap - winter fun )
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04-09-2010, 8:18 AM
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Cobram
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The mix is not a straight weight ratio on the percentage, it's a mix of fluid ounce grease and dry weight moly. 1/4 pound goes much farther than 6 ounces IME. A gunsmith (they LOVE moly lube for certain applications) told me the best way to mix is to use synthetic grease and keep adding the moly powder until it starts to clump, then add grease until it's a smooth consistency again.
You may be able to get the moly powder from a chemical or industrial supply on your side of the pond and save on the shipping.
I initially mixed my own because of necessity, the Honda dealer had never even heard of it, and no one in my area carried it. The online sellers wanted ridiculous shipping/handling charges on a tube.
1978 CX500 - I live on a one-way street that's also a dead end. I'm not sure how I got here, or how I'm going to get out.
Four wheels move the body; Two wheels move the Soul.
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04-10-2010, 1:23 PM
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Pim206Gti
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| Cobram wrote: | | The mix is not a straight weight ratio on the percentage, it's a mix of fluid ounce grease and dry weight moly. |
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Sorry I don't agree with you. Look at the following :
Data sheet of Molykote M77 : Data Sheet M77 see sheet 7 --> Wt% > 60
Web page of TSmoly : TS-70 Moly Paste With 70% MoS2 --> TS-70, with 70% by weight of molybdenum disulfide,
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04-10-2010, 10:15 PM
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Stan in Toronto
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Try Dow Corning Molykote Z Powder. Its what I mix with grease. Mix it any ratio you like.
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04-11-2010, 12:48 PM
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Timothy_D
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I'm not sure where you're hearing that the Moly 60 is bring discontinued, I bought a tube last week at the local Honda dealership.
CX500 Turbo, GL650I, Two CX650E's, and one Crown Jewel of the CX line- CX650T.
Why do I own five CX/GL bikes? Ask an alcoholic why he drinks.
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04-11-2010, 10:41 PM
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Pim206Gti
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| Timothy_D wrote: | | I'm not sure where you're hearing that the Moly 60 is bring discontinued, |
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Here in Europe it has been discountinued.
I went to to local Honda car dealership and it could be found in there system but it was no stock left and also not possible to order it any longer.
Honda CBX1000 A ( exploded in my garage )
Honda CX500 Turbo ( summer fun )
Honda CB450S ( cheap - winter fun )
Golden boomerang wheels rock ............
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04-11-2010, 10:57 PM
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TonyG
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I'd buy all 6 if I were you.
Ships internationally!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Genuine-Pro-Honda-Moly-60-Paste-New-in-Package_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem414e7ad13bQQitemZ280489546043QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
If you dont' have an Ebay account, check with Discount honda to see if John will ship internationally. Mention the CX/GL forum and get 10% off.
Wildmanwill has offered his services to help and I would do the same, but he is probably closer to a Honda dealer.
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04-12-2010, 2:06 AM
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Pim206Gti
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Hello TonyG,
Thanks for offering help. Wildman has given me the exact same Ebay link.
Sofar He ( Ebay guy ) hasn't answered my questions about shiping costs involved for 3 items
Here is the deal why I only want 3. If I order something outside the Europe I am obliged to pay import tax and also then the administration costs involved 
.......... unless I my purchase stays under a certain amount
My last idea is to purchase 3 items from the Ebay guy ( free USA shipment ) and send it to someone in the USA , which I will pay ( by PayPal ) to ship it to me by surface mail.
Any volunteers ?
Honda CBX1000 A ( exploded in my garage )
Honda CX500 Turbo ( summer fun )
Honda CB450S ( cheap - winter fun )
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04-12-2010, 2:39 AM
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TonyG
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What is that amount?
Did you check with John at Discount Honda?
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04-12-2010, 3:58 AM
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Pim206Gti
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| TonyG wrote: | | What is that amount?
Did you check with John at Discount Honda? |
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Send Discount Honda a question about shipping costs involved.
What is that amount ?
Well here it gets tricky. If I order something from a company outside of Europe I have to stay within a total value of 22 Euro ( aprox 30 dollar ) .
But if a privat person sent it to me ( a gift ) the the total value has to stay within 45 Euro's ( aprox 60 dollar )
Honda CBX1000 A ( exploded in my garage )
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Honda CB450S ( cheap - winter fun )
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04-12-2010, 1:09 PM
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wildmanwill
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| Pim206Gti wrote: |
My question is can someone ( living in the States ) buy let say 3 units of 3 ounces and ship it with surface mail to Europe ?
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Pim - sending a reply to your last PM, I am going to bring this issue to a close for you...
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04-13-2010, 1:02 AM
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spanish bandit
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pim,will this help?
£12.26 inc vat for 85g here
when i feel the need,i do it,llego,ve 60,s
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2008.1982 honda gli silverwing [uk model ]
2010.1981 honda gli silverwing [uk model ]
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04-13-2010, 8:14 AM
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Pim206Gti
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Helo all,
Thanks for all the input. 
Wildman Will is coming to the rescue
Honda CBX1000 A ( exploded in my garage )
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Honda CB450S ( cheap - winter fun )
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04-30-2010, 4:20 AM
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Pim206Gti
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Honda CBX1000 A ( exploded in my garage )
Honda CX500 Turbo ( summer fun )
Honda CB450S ( cheap - winter fun )
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05-01-2010, 7:52 PM
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wildmanwill
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Very creative.
You are very welcome, glad to help and glad to see that they arrived safely. I did get your PM too.
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05-01-2010, 10:50 PM
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TonyG
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There is a happy greasemonkey!!
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05-02-2010, 3:49 AM
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Don in Oz
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Pim, Great to "meet" you on this BB - there should be a bit more of this visual type of communication.
Don.
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05-27-2010, 6:24 PM
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Moose
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Hey European fellas who need moly paste!
Rocol, an english company, make a paste/lubricant called 'Dry moly paste', 50% moly and easily obtainable. Check the company and product at;
http://www.rocol.com/corp/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=106&Itemid=125&lang=en
I have some for my swinging arm linkages and will let you know how it appears to be when I have some proof of use.
OR
Pukka Honda kit at;
http://www.motocrossworld.com/site/scripts/product_browse.php?product_id=22378
Hope this helps someone.
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05-28-2010, 8:32 AM
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I still find it hard to believe that Honda is discontinuing Moly 60, I just bought another tube at Northbay Motorsport yesterday.
CX500 Turbo, GL650I, Two CX650E's, and one Crown Jewel of the CX line- CX650T.
Why do I own five CX/GL bikes? Ask an alcoholic why he drinks.
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06-03-2010, 11:49 AM
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Pim206Gti
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Honda is no longer 1 company with 1 strategie.
So the American Honda Motor Company hasn't discountinued the Moly paste but their European counterpart did
The packages I received were distributed by American Honda Motor Co. and also made in U.S.A.
Honda CBX1000 A ( exploded in my garage )
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06-03-2010, 12:16 PM
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Timothy_D
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A-ha!
CX500 Turbo, GL650I, Two CX650E's, and one Crown Jewel of the CX line- CX650T.
Why do I own five CX/GL bikes? Ask an alcoholic why he drinks.
Donating Member.
Sold: 1981 CX500D, 2- 1982 CX500T's, 1983 CX650C.
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