Honda CX500 & GL500 Forum

Search Sort Posts:  Oldest to newest Newest to oldest

03-24-2010, 4:42 AM Retroben Joined on 08-13-2009 Akron, OH Posts 51 Re: Yet another motorcycle repair fiasco.  spanish bandit wrote: wow,this is an old[but great thread] ben,as long as you have the bottom allan key bolt out,and the circlip at the top,they will come apart.work useing the 2 parts like a slide hammer. That's what I did with the first fork. It was hard, took about 10 good hard sliding blows till it popped apart. The second one will not come apart after banging for half an hour. My arms are about to fall off.. The old seal in there looks a little decayed. Could it be stuck so hard to the slider walls that it won't allow tubes to pop apart? Maybe if I heat the tube? I'm taking it to the shop this morning, I'm sure they have some device for this. At what point do I sell this stupid bike, before or after divorce and bankruptcy?   '81 GL500 Silverwing    Report

03-24-2010, 6:33 AM Retroben Joined on 08-13-2009 Akron, OH Posts 51 Two things nobody said before about disassembling a stubborn fork tube Thought I'd try one more thing before the bike shop opened this morning...just on a hunch...warmed up the seal area with a blow dryer. POP! Came apart on the second pull. This is the kind of simple information I find woefully lacking in the manuals. Also, if you use the tube as a slide hammer, make sure you don't bang (bottom out) the fork too hard on the backstroke, or you will tear up the "oil lock piece" (AKA "damper rod seat"). As I noted earlier, I'm hoping my filing and sandpapering the damage will be OK. But there was no warning about this in any of the three manuals (IMHO the Clymer especially is a waste of the paper it's printed on) or anywhere on this forum that I could find. Time reassemble the second fork, take a few deep breaths and go for a ride (I hope). '81 GL500 Silverwing    Report

03-24-2010, 6:35 AM spanish bandit Joined on 02-12-2009 southern spain Posts 5,010 Re: Two things nobody said before about disassembling a stubborn fork tube  Retroben wrote: Thought I'd try one more thing before the bike shop opened this morning...just on a hunch...warmed up the seal area with a blow dryer. POP! Came apart on the second pull. This is the kind of simple information I find woefully lacking in the manuals. Also, if you use the tube as a slide hammer, make sure you don't bang (bottom out) the fork too hard on the backstroke, or you will tear up the "oil lock piece" (AKA "damper rod seat"). As I noted earlier, I'm hoping my filing and sandpapering the damage will be OK. But there was no warning about this in any of the three manuals (IMHO the Clymer especially is a waste of the paper it's printed on) or anywhere on this forum that I could find. Time reassemble the second fork, take a few deep breaths and go for a ride (I hope). glad you got it done. perhaps because the weather here is warm....explains why mine was not too dificult to pop apart when i feel the need,i do it,llego,ve 60,s ----------------------------- 2008.1982 honda gli silverwing [uk model ] 2010.1981 honda gli silverwing [uk model ]    Report

03-24-2010, 8:36 AM Abes_CW Joined on 04-17-2007 saskatoon Posts 3,037 Re: Two things nobody said before about disassembling a stubborn fork tube Hey Retro, in defense of the manual writers, I doubt any of the authors even considered the fact that some dude 30 years later would be trying to pull a 30 year old dried up seal out of the tubes. Glad you got ér out anyway! 1983 GL650i Had 4 CX/GL's at one point this year, down to one, next spring is another adventure! age 38 (29 plus tax)    Report

04-08-2010, 8:07 AM Retroben Joined on 08-13-2009 Akron, OH Posts 51 Mystery solved...blame the PO! Once I got the second tube apart, as I was preparing to reassemble, I noticed that the backup ring beneath the seal (Part #51412-422-003, #6 on the parts diagram) was no longer a flat ring with a shoulder- it had acquired a cone shape, like it was turned inside out, and it was out of round too. I suspected that maybe someone had replaced the seals before and put that ring in upside down...called a local old bike mechanic and he confirmed that's probably what happened (he said, "I bet you had a helluva time getting the slider and fork tube apart, eh?) Also, the guide bushing (51414-469-003) was showing mostly copper. Ordered both from the dealership, $18.00 total. When the parts came in, I had to doublecheck the numbers before I left the counter -- the replacement guide bush is now ALL copper on the outside, with the teflon coating on the inside surface only...and the replacement backup ring is now simply a flat piece, no shoulders, so you can put it in either way, no difference. Kind of made me wonder why the original had the shoulder on it. Anyway, once I got the parts it took me about 10 minutes to reassemble. It's like riding a totally different bike. What a great, smooth, maneuverable bike it turns out! Now on to the rear cover oil leak, getting worse by the day...and the rotted mufflers...and the squeak in the pro-link... '81 GL500 Silverwing    Report

04-08-2010, 8:10 AM spanish bandit Joined on 02-12-2009 southern spain Posts 5,010 Re: Mystery solved...blame the PO! welldone,thanks for the update, when i feel the need,i do it,llego,ve 60,s ----------------------------- 2008.1982 honda gli silverwing [uk model ] 2010.1981 honda gli silverwing [uk model ]    Report

04-08-2010, 8:27 AM Shep Joined on 01-30-2007 UK.2x1980CX500A Posts 7,648 Re: Mystery solved...blame the PO!  Retroben wrote: It's like riding a totally different bike. What a great, smooth, maneuverable bike it turns out! Now you are getting the riding experience I've had for over 6 years.My Cxs eat up the hills and bends on the country roads around here like silk.I've even out-run some crotch rocket riders who just cannot handle the roads.I love to see their faces when I let them catch up and stop at a junction.There's always that slight look of disbelief on their faces:Priceless! My Music http://www.reverbnation.com/pauldouglas/ Join Just In Case :) http://globalcxglvtwins.hostingdelivered.com/ Id quot circumiret, circumveniat    Report

07-19-2010, 9:26 PM Abes_CW Joined on 04-17-2007 saskatoon Posts 3,037 10 minute fork oil change I successfully did a ten minute fork oil change on my 650 today.  Should work on any fork with a drain bolt and air support.  Film at 11. (I am hesitant to work to much on it, I doubt anything posted the last couple days will make the new forum....) 1983 GL650i Had 4 CX/GL's at one point this year, down to one, next spring is another adventure! age 38 (29 plus tax)    Report

07-19-2010, 10:29 PM Abes_CW Joined on 04-17-2007 saskatoon Posts 3,037 Re: 10 minute fork oil change Pulled the first fork apart, my springs were put in backwards, with the small spring on the bottom.  No wonder the handling was squirmy.   The 650 differs from the 500's in that the front wheel mounting is different.  The 500 GL's used two half moon pinch devices, one for each side, my 650 uses only one, and a thread in axle bolt much like my CX500 custom (80) did. the big issue is the opposite leg (left) has the allen bolt really deep in.  My 6mm allen bolt socket doesn't reach down the hole.  I have a standard L shaped allen wrench, but IMO these are for putting together IKEA furniture, not removing motorcycle bolts, so I will go find the proper tool tomorrow before botching up the head of the bolt. I am curious if the springs are wrong in this one to.  I suspect not, which would really explain my strange cornering feeling. Speedo head also is very different than the GL500. And of course the 650 has a fork brace the 500 lacked If you aren't an original owner, or haven't pulled the forks, it may not be a bad idea to do so just to verify things are where they belong. 1983 GL650i Had 4 CX/GL's at one point this year, down to one, next spring is another adventure! age 38 (29 plus tax)    Report

07-20-2010, 3:14 PM Mothman52 Joined on 09-23-2008 Berkeley, CA Posts 785 Re: Yet another motorcycle repair fiasco. Doing fork seals is one of those jobs where describing it is 10x more confusing than actually doing it. ANYONE can do it, and after the first time, then next time'll be cake... 1982 CX500C in Metallic Black & Gray    Report

07-20-2010, 3:40 PM Abes_CW Joined on 04-17-2007 saskatoon Posts 3,037 Re: Yet another motorcycle repair fiasco. I couldn't believe how quickly I got the circlip out this time. It might be easier on a 39mm fork than the 35..... 1983 GL650i Had 4 CX/GL's at one point this year, down to one, next spring is another adventure! age 38 (29 plus tax)    Report

Page 2 of 2 (61 items) < 1 2

Honda CX500 & G... » CX500 GL500 Tra... » General Discuss... » Re: Fork seal replacement: Update photo's added

(please select) Forums Home |- Search Forums |- Active Topics |- Unanswered Posts User Options |- Sign In |- Join this community |- Forgot Password CX500 GL500 Transverse Twins Discussion Forum |- General Discussion |- CX Customization and Modifications |- CX500 & CX650 Turbo Forum |- Travelling, Friends, and Trips |- Selling and Buying Forum |- Technical Help Forum Other Forums |- Off-Topic Posts |- Test Forum