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Started by RAGBrian at 07-08-2010 8:46 AM. Topic has 12 replies.
 
 
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07-08-2010, 8:46 AM
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RAGBrian

Joined on 10-23-2009
Wildwood, MO
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Need stator for my 1978
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I am looking for a stator (CDI version) that I can rewind (as a project) the coils and
test (using the '82 parts bike housing and driven with an electric
motor) before I tear into Maggie and replace. Anyone have a stator lying
around that they would want to part with? email me at my address
ragbrian at gmail dot com and let me know what you have (especially
during the transition period for this board).
After a nice 100 mile ride yesterday, my battery was nearly dead as I pulled into the driveway. My stator has low output (12v - 12v - 5v) as measured between the yellow wires. While I have continuity on all windings, I see that there is low resistance (approx. 1500 ohms) to ground, so a lot of voltage is being shunted off. The high voltage windings are working fine, which is another reason I am glad that the early models have this feature! So....time for a stator rewind. Until it is replaced, I am working on a circuit were I can bring along some SLA batteries and use them to run things until they are low, then switch in the main battery for lighting.
If I actually get this to work, I will post the results, and may even offer my services to a buddy to repair his bad stator in his Moto Morini 500!
Thanks!
RAGBrian
1978 CX500 Standard (Running...) | 1982 CX500C (donor) | CB360T (NOT running) | CB350G (donor?)
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07-08-2010, 9:30 AM
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Randall-in-Mpls

Joined on 07-06-2007
Minneapolis, MN
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Re: Need stator for my 1978
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I've got a couple dead stators.
Email me: randall (dot) temple (at) bigfoot (dot) com
R
'78 CX500 - Black Maggot --> Green Grub / Yellow Grub / Red Grub ???
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07-08-2010, 9:33 AM
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Randall-in-Mpls

Joined on 07-06-2007
Minneapolis, MN
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Difference in stator cores?
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While we're on the topic, how different are the stator cores between the CX and GL? Since I'm using the Ignitec, I won't need the ignition windings. Would it be feasible to rewind one as a charging-only stator?
Thanks,
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'78 CX500 - Black Maggot --> Green Grub / Yellow Grub / Red Grub ???
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07-08-2010, 9:56 AM
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Blindstitch

Joined on 03-14-2009
Greenfield Wisconsin
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Re: Difference in stator cores?
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07-08-2010, 3:57 PM
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RAGBrian

Joined on 10-23-2009
Wildwood, MO
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Re: Need stator for my 1978
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Randall,
Thanks for the offer! email sent!
RAGBrian
1978 CX500 Standard (Running...) | 1982 CX500C (donor) | CB360T (NOT running) | CB350G (donor?)
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07-10-2010, 6:58 AM
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RAGBrian

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Re: Need stator for my 1978
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Update: got a pair of stators coming my way, so I will keep the group posted on the outcome of this rewind. A check of web site shows only a couple of mentions of the older style rewinds. I will also add my $0.02 worth of knowledge when I get my worked on. Having to trickle charge the battery after every ride kinda sucks!
RAGBrian
1978 CX500 Standard (Running...) | 1982 CX500C (donor) | CB360T (NOT running) | CB350G (donor?)
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07-11-2010, 10:24 AM
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Skip

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Re: Need stator for my 1978
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Brian,
Have a look around the website run in the UK by Hann: http://ofapars-.webs.com/ .
He's done a comprehensive write up of the project stator rewind he did.
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07-11-2010, 10:47 AM
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Blindstitch

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Re: Need stator for my 1978
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Skip wrote: | | Brian,
Have a look around the website run in the UK by Hann: http://ofapars-.webs.com/ .
He's done a comprehensive write up of the project stator rewind he did. |
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And the good thing is he's here also in case there are questions to be asked.
1979 CX500 Supertanker ATGATT makes riding a bike like a sled easier.
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07-11-2010, 11:26 AM
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RAGBrian

Joined on 10-23-2009
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Re: Need stator for my 1978
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Skip wrote: | | Brian,
Have a look around the website run in the UK by Hann: http://ofapars-.webs.com/ .
He's done a comprehensive write up of the project stator rewind he did. |
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Skip & BlindStitch,
I found Hann's site awhile ago while researching CX's. A great site for mods and repairs. Thanks for the recommendation and I bookmarked it as I forgot his URL.
Yes I have read the stator rewind article previously. In it he notes that the high voltage windings fail on the stators for the CDI bikes and makes the recommendation to switch to the ignitech module. My problem is the opposite-not enough voltage on the charging windings to keep the battery charged! So, I will play with the stator rewind and see what I come up with. I have a long back ground in electronics, and have wound my own toroidal transformers for radio receiver circuits, so winding thin wire is not an issue for me.
RAGBrian
1978 CX500 Standard (Running...) | 1982 CX500C (donor) | CB360T (NOT running) | CB350G (donor?)
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07-11-2010, 6:35 PM
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dean

Joined on 06-13-2007
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Re: Need stator for my 1978
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forgive the ignorance, but are you guys saying that if you use the ignitech cdi that you don't need the more expensive stator for the 78-81 cx500's? how does this work?
06 FZ6 80 CX500 Custom (project) 83 Gl650I (given back to original owner)
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07-11-2010, 7:02 PM
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Blindstitch

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Re: Need stator for my 1978
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That's what we are saying.
The current cdi stator uses 3 circuits. 1 for low, 2 for high and 3 for charging. Well the ignitech kills the need for 1 and 2 taking its power from the battery like the Gl's do.
1979 CX500 Supertanker ATGATT makes riding a bike like a sled easier.
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07-11-2010, 7:39 PM
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dean

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Re: Need stator for my 1978
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is there a thread on here explaining all of this? things such as... does this have any advantages? can you use the gl stators? are circuits 1 and 2 the first to normally go? i'm curious to learn what this all means.
06 FZ6 80 CX500 Custom (project) 83 Gl650I (given back to original owner)
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07-11-2010, 8:33 PM
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Blindstitch

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Re: Need stator for my 1978
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There are probably several threads.
Advantages. The cx stator only puts out 170 watts vs. the gl 250 watt stator. Yes the gl stator fits just right.
Circuits 1 and 2 are fun. The low one is normally the second to go. If the high circuit goes you won't be able to drive over 50mph. If the low goes then the bike won't even start. Eliminating these makes a lot of sense. The one thing that sucks about it is that with the high and low circuits can actually power the bike if the battery dies or the main fuse snaps. But if you are using the ignitech then these two circuits won't be used for anything.
It's win win especially if you already have the ignitech.
1979 CX500 Supertanker ATGATT makes riding a bike like a sled easier.
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