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06-22-2010, 12:13 PM Pim206Gti Joined on 11-26-2009 Netherlands, Europe Posts 71 Large Gap between rear side of seat and aft fairing Although this is a CX650 euro, my Turbo has a similair gap between the seat and the aft fairing. What is causing this and how can I correct it ? Now I have to tell the people it's and heat exchange exhaust for the ECU    Honda CBX1000 A ( exploded in my garage ) Honda CX500 Turbo ( summer fun ) Honda CB450S ( cheap - winter fun ) Golden boomerang wheels rock ............    Report

06-22-2010, 1:38 PM Timothy_D Joined on 04-22-2006 Santa Rosa, CA Posts 1,585 Re: Large Gap between rear side of seat and aft fairing Without visually inspecting the seat, I have three guesses. 1) The Vinyl has shrunk so much it's pulling up on the seat. 2) Your seat is not "seated" properly, maybe there is extra material pushing it up, like two rubber pieces when there should only be one. 3) The bike has been down, and the rear fairing subframe is bent. How much gap is between the tail light and the rear fairing? CX500 Turbo, GL650I, Two CX650E's, and one Crown Jewel of the CX line- CX650T. Why do I own five CX/GL bikes? Ask an alcoholic why he drinks. Donating Member. Sold: 1981 CX500D, 2- 1982 CX500T's, 1983 CX650C.    Report

06-23-2010, 1:19 AM Don in Oz Joined on 03-10-2006 Melbourne, Australia Posts 546 Re: Large Gap between rear side of seat and aft fairing A bit off-topic, but the seats on the CX500EC and CX650ED (which are all but identical in covering and base), have a small "hook" nearly at the rear end, and it engages with a hole in the rear fender (or is it the transverse metal bar which gives the seat its rear support), to hold the rear of those seats down, thus overcoming the annoying gap as posted in Pim's picture. Maybe we need to modify the turbo's seatpan and fender to have this Honda facility from another of the family. Don. GL500I, CX500TC (2), CX500EC (2), 1982 CX500C. GL1000, 1976 CB550F, CT110 (2), XL125S (2), 1973 CB175K6. Kwaka Z250C1 (2). Suzuki GS450SX, DR250SJ, GS125ESD.    Report

06-26-2010, 12:54 PM Pim206Gti Joined on 11-26-2009 Netherlands, Europe Posts 71 Re: Large Gap between rear side of seat and aft fairing  Timothy_D wrote: How much gap is between the tail light and the rear fairing? The gap is aprox 1 inch - 2.5 cm Honda CBX1000 A ( exploded in my garage ) Honda CX500 Turbo ( summer fun ) Honda CB450S ( cheap - winter fun ) Golden boomerang wheels rock ............    Report

06-26-2010, 1:11 PM CXSarnia Joined on 01-11-2008 Sarnia, Ontario, Canada Posts 2,623 Re: Large Gap between rear side of seat and aft fairing What Don in Oz said, and the possibility of shrinkage (Thank you Seinfeld) I never paid close attention to it, but on the bike I have there are a couple of nylon hooks in the seat pan that hook into the tank. My old tank, the 'tabs' are broken, and the seat is pushed too far forward. (creating a gap at the back) on the new tank, the problem was solved Tabs do what they are supposed to.... Like I said, I knew about the tabs at the front, but never gave a second glance at the back to see how it was fastened there... will check tonight. 2009 DN-01 Spakin' New! 1982 CX500 Turbo & Parts bike 1981 SL185 Yamaha Exciter 198? V45 Magna 1979 CX500 Deluxe 1982 CB750K Daily rider September 1999 1982 CX500 Custom - project Originally bought April 1982 safetied and on the road 09/2008    Report

06-26-2010, 5:12 PM Don in Oz Joined on 03-10-2006 Melbourne, Australia Posts 546 Re: Large Gap between rear side of seat and aft fairing Pim, If that's your 650 ED, then you either have a turbo seat on it, you have broken the "hold down" hook off the seat-pan, or you haven't installed the seat correctly. Don. GL500I, CX500TC (2), CX500EC (2), 1982 CX500C. GL1000, 1976 CB550F, CT110 (2), XL125S (2), 1973 CB175K6. Kwaka Z250C1 (2). Suzuki GS450SX, DR250SJ, GS125ESD.    Report

07-03-2010, 12:04 PM Pim206Gti Joined on 11-26-2009 Netherlands, Europe Posts 71 Re: Large Gap between rear side of seat and aft fairing  Don in Oz wrote: Pim, If that's your 650 ED, . No Don that's not my 650 ED. But I have a spar 650 ED seat to be used on my Turbo. If I have the time I will have a look at the differances. On my current Turbo seat there was a MC7 code so it should be a Turbo seat. Interesting is what CXSarnia says that the broken tank tabs ( who has them still ?? ) can result in the seat being to far forward Pim Honda CBX1000 A ( exploded in my garage ) Honda CX500 Turbo ( summer fun ) Honda CB450S ( cheap - winter fun ) Golden boomerang wheels rock ............    Report

07-03-2010, 5:44 PM Stan in Toronto Joined on 06-07-2008 Toronto Ontario Canada Posts 228 Re: Large Gap between rear side of seat and aft fairing Tabs on the tank would be my guess too. With them gone the seat can sit lower at the front, raising the back. My tank still has the tabs and my seat presents no gap at the rear. 1 inch from plastic to underside of seat. (Had to go measure) Stan 1984 CX650E - The Black Rider Joined this forum 6 7 8 Took my first breath in 1952    Report

07-03-2010, 8:48 PM George in Indiana Joined on 03-03-2006 Posts 954 Re: Large Gap between rear side of seat and aft fairing My seats fit nicely too.  Tabs are on both my bikes. They aren't exactly flimsy, how do people manage to break them off? CX500 TURBO CX650 TURBO '04 GSX1300R Hayabusa    Report

07-03-2010, 9:42 PM wridley Joined on 06-28-2007 Didsbury, AB, Canada Posts 246 Re: Large Gap between rear side of seat and aft fairing Can someone post pictures of the tabs on both the tank and the seat?  If possible with a ruler or tape measure beside them so I can see the size of them. The tabs on the tank are busted and the ones on the seat are damaged.  Would like to see what they should look like. Thanks Willy 1983 CX650E !! Newest addition 1982 CX500C 1982 CM450A 1981 GL500I (wife)    Report

07-05-2010, 10:25 PM George in Indiana Joined on 03-03-2006 Posts 954 Re: Large Gap between rear side of seat and aft fairing This is the only picture I have of a tab but it should give you an idea of what it looks like. CX500 TURBO CX650 TURBO '04 GSX1300R Hayabusa    Report

07-06-2010, 8:24 AM Timothy_D Joined on 04-22-2006 Santa Rosa, CA Posts 1,585 Re: Large Gap between rear side of seat and aft fairing Where's the little rubber piece? CX500 Turbo, GL650I, Two CX650E's, and one Crown Jewel of the CX line- CX650T. Why do I own five CX/GL bikes? Ask an alcoholic why he drinks. Donating Member. Sold: 1981 CX500D, 2- 1982 CX500T's, 1983 CX650C.    Report

07-06-2010, 11:52 AM Pim206Gti Joined on 11-26-2009 Netherlands, Europe Posts 71 Re: Large Gap between rear side of seat and aft fairing This is almost identical seat situation as my Turbo  : Picture source - http://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/mcy/1790245149.aspx Pim Honda CBX1000 A ( exploded in my garage ) Honda CX500 Turbo ( summer fun ) Honda CB450S ( cheap - winter fun ) Golden boomerang wheels rock ............    Report

07-06-2010, 5:40 PM MotoMartin Joined on 03-02-2010 Oceanside California Posts 36 Re: Large Gap between rear side of seat and aft fairing I can see from the picture that the seat is not fitted properly at the tank. It looks like the plastic slots in the seat (that accept the tank tabs) are sitting on top of the broken tabs. I fixed my broken tank tabs with errector set pieces (Meccano if you are in Europe) and attached them to the tank with metal epoxy putty, they are the right shape for the seat attachment slots.    Report

07-06-2010, 6:22 PM Don in Oz Joined on 03-10-2006 Melbourne, Australia Posts 546 Re: Large Gap between rear side of seat and aft fairing An "Ooops" to my original posts on the fastening-down of the rear of the seats for the CX500EC and CX650ED. There is a 1" diameter hole in the seat-pan where the seat-pan rests on the lateral support bar of the frame, and that lateral support bar has the HOOK as part of the bar - it hooks into the rear of the hole in the seat-pan, as you slide the seat forward onto the lugs on either side of the tank. This would be a relatively simple mod. to the turbo and its seat-pan. Don. GL500I, CX500TC (2), CX500EC (2), 1982 CX500C. GL1000, 1976 CB550F, CT110 (2), XL125S (2), 1973 CB175K6. Kwaka Z250C1 (2). Suzuki GS450SX, DR250SJ, GS125ESD.    Report

07-18-2010, 5:54 PM TonyG Joined on 04-05-2006 Central Pa Posts 745 Re: Large Gap between rear side of seat and aft fairing I should have taken a picture, but I found the tab due to your description.  It was bent down against the rear cross-frame support.   I took a screwdriver and bent it up so that it would accept the thickness of the seat pan and the hole in the pan.   It worked well and now the seat fits well at the rear as well as having more support throughout the seating position.  For those others who may have a risen seat, take a look to see if there is a tab in the middle of the cross frame support on the bike and under the seat.  It's about 3/4 of the way back the seating area.    IF the seat pan has sat on the tab, it may be bent down and appear to have some other function such as a place to attach a rubber strap.  That is the hook to secure the rear part of the seat.  The hole in the rear of the seat slides over and under that tab. This also allows the seat bolts to fit where they are supposed to.  Excellent observation.!!    Report

07-19-2010, 4:49 AM Don in Oz Joined on 03-10-2006 Melbourne, Australia Posts 546 Re: Large Gap between rear side of seat and aft fairing Thanks, Tony. I thought I might have been preaching up-wind. It fits very well, and holds the rear of the seat quite solidly. The front tabs are another thing entirely, and definitely need the rubber bushes on them, to give a tight fit in the slots of the seat-base. Don. GL500I, CX500TC (2), CX500EC (2), 1982 CX500C. GL1000, 1976 CB550F, CT110 (2), XL125S (2), 1973 CB175K6. Kwaka Z250C1 (2). Suzuki GS450SX, DR250SJ, GS125ESD.    Report

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