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 05-05-2008, 1:34 PM
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dafaic
Joined on 04-25-2008
Waxahachie, TX
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I am definitly a newb and sorry for all my posts.
If the rear suspensions getting squeaky do I just need to lube the lube spots or is there more to it with the air suspension?
How do yall air up the suspension? I know not to use the air compressor but would a sealed air container be okay? Or do I need an air pump?
Thanks
81' Gl500 - First bike (Installed a Plexi-Fairing, Powdercoated crash bars with floor boards)
Getting back into ridding. Only got to ride the bike for 2 months after buying it when someone rearended me in my truck and I couldn't ride.
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05-05-2008, 3:26 PM
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DAVID
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FORNEY TX
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You can use an air compressor. The GL can take from 0-70psi depending on load.
Do a search for 'pro-link squeek'.
82 GL500
81 KDX175
If all else fails, read the instructions
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05-05-2008, 4:47 PM
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WayneDW
 
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Minneapolis
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The squeaky suspension is more than a few lube spots. You have to take it apart which is quite involved. There have been some recent comprehensive posts about it in the "Technical Help Forum". Search "pro-link squeak" down there.
Wayne
1983 GL650 Silverwing Interstate
WWW.fossilapostles.com
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05-05-2008, 5:11 PM
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dafaic
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Wow and yes I definitly have a repair job ahead of me!
Any recommended parts to order. I would like to take the bike down and have it back up on the same day.
I understand that sometimes that can't be helped but if the bike is down for too long then it can't pay for it self.
81' Gl500 - First bike (Installed a Plexi-Fairing, Powdercoated crash bars with floor boards)
Getting back into ridding. Only got to ride the bike for 2 months after buying it when someone rearended me in my truck and I couldn't ride.
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05-05-2008, 5:11 PM
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DaveNearAtlanta
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Also see this thread about the pig.
You won't really know what parts you need until you take it apart. There may be one or more collars or bushings that have badly corroded and need to be replaced.
My Web Site
1982 GL500
1983 GL650
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05-05-2008, 5:16 PM
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dafaic
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good to know I have a 7gal pig.
81' Gl500 - First bike (Installed a Plexi-Fairing, Powdercoated crash bars with floor boards)
Getting back into ridding. Only got to ride the bike for 2 months after buying it when someone rearended me in my truck and I couldn't ride.
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05-05-2008, 6:34 PM
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DAVID
Joined on 05-16-2007
FORNEY TX
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For the forks you NEED a pig. For the rear shock, you can be fast with the air chuck or adjust the regulator on your compressor for 70psi then bleed out what you don't want. But since you have a pig......
82 GL500
81 KDX175
If all else fails, read the instructions
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05-05-2008, 7:19 PM
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RustyTec
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The only thing that I would order/buy before hand is the anti-seize or Moly60. This is most likely all you need if you have the tools and manuals.
You have been reading epic tails of major seizures, those get written about, the easy jobs don’t. - I’d bet that yours is not going to be quite that bad.
Get an early start and expect to complete in less than a day (maybe as little as 3 hours). If you do run into a wall, Just put it back together, for now. - (Expect 1.5 hour to get it back on the road).
The sooner you get started on this, the better. If you wait and then write an epic tale of your own, you will wonder, if you could have prevented it.
BTW Howdy neighbor. That makes three of us here (that I know of).
PS I’ll back Dave from Forney, A GL rear shock can be filled from a compressor. As most quality compressors can be set to 70 PSI max and cheap compressors can be ran down to that. Still, a pig is a good safe idea, if its PSI gauge is accurate.
Any ideas on the best bicycle air pump to carry? I can’t find one that will fit the rear Com Star.
RustyTec ’81 GL500. Dallas Texas.
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05-06-2008, 10:50 AM
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dafaic
Joined on 04-25-2008
Waxahachie, TX
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I used a pig as I have one handy and pumped it to 45psi and filled the rear and then set the pig to 15psi and filled the front.
I think the rear is less noisy and squeaky but it still squeaks.
The front and rear were empty or low enough for my tire gauge to not read.
ANd yes howdy neigbor. I picked this bike up in Duncaville over by the Toyoto Dealership on i-20 in Duncaville.
I am going to pick up my shifter o-ring and oil filter in a day or too and plan on changing oil, shifter o-ring, and working on the rear shock this weekend.
I now have a reason to assemble my 5 ton press thats been sitting in the garage for a year and a 1/2.
I have some mopar atf+4 synthetic in the garage that should be okay in the shock right?
and when you say anti-sieze your refering to a type of grease not the tiny tubes of stuff you put on spark plugs.
81' Gl500 - First bike (Installed a Plexi-Fairing, Powdercoated crash bars with floor boards)
Getting back into ridding. Only got to ride the bike for 2 months after buying it when someone rearended me in my truck and I couldn't ride.
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05-06-2008, 12:46 PM
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05-06-2008, 4:39 PM
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RustyTec
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05-07-2008, 5:38 AM
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dafaic
Joined on 04-25-2008
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Would like to get together and ride for sure. My father-in-law has a gl1000.
I got a rear shock off epay yesterday for $30 hope it's worth rebuilding.
81' Gl500 - First bike (Installed a Plexi-Fairing, Powdercoated crash bars with floor boards)
Getting back into ridding. Only got to ride the bike for 2 months after buying it when someone rearended me in my truck and I couldn't ride.
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05-07-2008, 5:23 PM
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dafaic
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OH and what do I use on the shock since I don't have the special press tool for the shock?
81' Gl500 - First bike (Installed a Plexi-Fairing, Powdercoated crash bars with floor boards)
Getting back into ridding. Only got to ride the bike for 2 months after buying it when someone rearended me in my truck and I couldn't ride.
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05-07-2008, 6:57 PM
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RustyTec
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05-08-2008, 7:37 AM
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dafaic
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cause I found one cheap on epay hoping it would be worth rebuilding.
Then I can take my time rebuilding it and getting new fluid in it and then stick it in the bike when it's done. And not worry about my bike being down.
Plus the fact that these are very hard to locate could be useful if I mess this first one up then if that happens maybe I won't mess up mine.
A $30 part to practice on. I thought it was worth a try anyway.
81' Gl500 - First bike (Installed a Plexi-Fairing, Powdercoated crash bars with floor boards)
Getting back into ridding. Only got to ride the bike for 2 months after buying it when someone rearended me in my truck and I couldn't ride.
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05-08-2008, 7:38 AM
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dafaic
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oh and my dealer here can't get moly60.
81' Gl500 - First bike (Installed a Plexi-Fairing, Powdercoated crash bars with floor boards)
Getting back into ridding. Only got to ride the bike for 2 months after buying it when someone rearended me in my truck and I couldn't ride.
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05-08-2008, 8:49 AM
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jcfm64
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that rear squeak is why the wife and I call ours "squeaky" for years.
'82 GL 500
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05-08-2008, 11:06 AM
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RustyTec
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I can see that a hot spare could save some down time.
The link I gave you to Sidecar Bob’s procedure “Honda says to use hydraulic press with adapters, I did it on an arbor press at work, no adaptors were needed.”
Do you do have a shop manual? If not, get one here:
helminc.com
From that same page you can order the Common Service Manual or you can download it here:
http://www.nighthawk750.com/maint/Honda_Common_Service_Manual.pdf
“Honda has a manual that is helpful for those who want to learn more about how their Honda operates. It is entitled "Honda Common Service Manual."
This manual:
- provides the theory of operation of the various systems Honda motorcycles, ATVs and scooters use.
- is recommended by consumer magazines for anyone who has a motorcycle, no matter the brand.
- is recommended to be used in conjunction with several model specific service manuals issued between 1989 and 1995.
Over 400 pages of diverse technical information in an attractive binder for just $48 plus shipping and handling. The order number for this manual is 61CM001 and is available from Helm at (888) 292-5393 or their Web site: www.helminc.com.”
Was that a Honda dealer? I know Al Lambs Honda has it 972 238 7148.
RustyTec ’81 GL500. Dallas Texas.
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05-09-2008, 10:06 AM
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RichNCT
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Be sure you bought a GL500 rear shock, the 650s are a little different in the yoke mounting and not interchangable. Parts fische drawings should help you verify it. Sellers often do not know that of which they advertise. It's probably right, as 650 shocks are less plentiful. The same comment applies to the ProLink assembly.
Refueling on The James Bay Road, 2009
Born to be relatively wild (for a grampa x 3)
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05-09-2008, 2:03 PM
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CoastRider
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New Brunswick Canada
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As for what to use for your air shocks,I have a GP3 gauge pump made by progressive suspension (can be seen on their website www.progressivesuspension.com). It's very accurate and perfect for front forks as it is a low volume pump made special for air suspension(mine need 11 to 17psi).It will go from 0 to 60 psi.Cost me about $60 Can.
at the local bike dealer.
Terry
1981 GL500 interstate
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05-09-2008, 2:58 PM
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RustyTec
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05-09-2008, 7:39 PM
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dafaic
Joined on 04-25-2008
Waxahachie, TX
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I seem to have had good luck with the pig. Put the pig at 15psi and aired the front no problem. I set the air compressor to 60psi and slowly pump my filler handle till I got it up there.
I have one of those air gauge/air fillers. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=92360
This is my press.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=1667
Forgot it was a 12ton.
Well hopefully it's the right shock.
It came in today and it looks good! Put 60psi in it and it still holding. Pulled the boot off and the shaft is nice and chrome and the bushings and bearings all look really good.
Went and picked up my shifter o-ring and oil filter.
So this weekend I have to rebuild a rear mastercylinder on my f-i-law's gl1000 and change the oil. I have to change my oil, replace the shifter o-ring, and swap the shocks.
I have a Haynes manual plus I downloaded the honda service manual from another thread on here.
I really appreciate all the help!
I got some lithium grease from the dealer said it had a weight of 60 on the back of it so I assume that it's a moly 60 equivalent.
The guy at the dealership said thats what they used on all the bikes they work on. It was $7 for a small tub the size of a small tub of orange hand cleaner.
81' Gl500 - First bike (Installed a Plexi-Fairing, Powdercoated crash bars with floor boards)
Getting back into ridding. Only got to ride the bike for 2 months after buying it when someone rearended me in my truck and I couldn't ride.
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05-09-2008, 11:26 PM
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RustyTec
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“dealer said it had a weight of 60 on the back of it so I assume that it's a moly 60 equivalent.”
Say what?! If that can of grease states that it contains 60% Moly, you are good-to-go and on-the-cheep, to-boot. - - I’d wager $500 that it doesn’t. If that is a Honda Dealer, you need to find a different one! Try a big-city one.
GL service manual - page 14-15 and 14-26 tells you to use Moly (45% minimum). Do it.
(Lithium will work for a short time, but it is a mistake that you do not have to make).
Use Moly or Ainti-seize or Never-seize. Period, END OF DISCUSSION.
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The GL service manual download that I found here, was not worth the download time. It was a very bad scan. Please advise me if you got one that is of ‘very good quality’ (every page). I’d love to have a 2nd copy for use in the house (no-grease).
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I tried to plan out a day trip in your neck-of-the-woods. I used the 7 closest motorcycle roads (to you) from here: http://www.motorcycleroads.us/index.aspx However, MS Streets and Trips crashed. So I lost 3 hours of planing an 8hr trip for me (~6.5hr for you). Of course we would not have to do all 7 roads, if time became short, as they are all loops.
Here is the closest one (to you) http://www.motorcycleroads.us/roads/tx_fm66.aspx
The reviews are mixed on that one:
# "Nice ride on a Saturday morning with some pretty views. I could see where it might get crowded at other times." - Shawn Fullagar (10/22/07)
# "This is a dangerous road!!! It's narrow, has off camber turns, and it's not the 'look here what I found' little wayside it used to be. Full of metroplex commuters and pissed off locals. I know, I ride it & live in Itasca too. Just Careflighted out another motorcyclist last Sunday." - Anonymous (10/9/07)
# "Asphalt road with lots of scenic views with a motorcycle stop in Maypearl on FM 66 (the Biker's General Store)." - Rider from Maypearl, Texas (9/13/06)
2nd closest (to you) http://www.motorcycleroads.us/roads/tx_fm157.aspx
RustyTec ’81 GL500. Dallas Texas.
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05-11-2008, 12:53 AM
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dafaic
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Yeah links were down. Wow I am sorry you lost all that time! I can relate. Would be nice to do a ride for sure!
Well I wish I had checked e-mails Friday and Yesterday. I got started around 2pm Sat. did my f-i-l bike first; oil change and mastercylinder. MC still leaks out the base when you pump it.
Any hints on that would be good. Rear master on a 78 gl1000.
Changed my oil and shifter seal.
Pulled the suspension apart put the shock I just bought off e-pay in and greased everything down with this
http://www.maximausa.com/products/misc/grease.asp
The squeak is gone but I imagine if it's not good stuff I'll be doing it again soon.
And that drive from Waxahachie to Itasca is a nice ride. I have driven it many times just not on a bike.
My grand father recommended going out hwy 77 through Hillsboro, across Whitney Lake, cut across Bosque County, and back across Whitney lake on the Katy Bridge, into Blum, and the back roads from Blum to Itasca, and then back to Waxahachie.
He said that was his groups favorite ride in the 70's. He said it took about 3 or 4 hours to ride it.
Here is a link to that cruise I just made on google maps. I have also driven almost 100% of this at one time or another and the roads are alright there are a few areas though not very good. This starts and ends at the Walmart in Waxahachie.
81' Gl500 - First bike (Installed a Plexi-Fairing, Powdercoated crash bars with floor boards)
Getting back into ridding. Only got to ride the bike for 2 months after buying it when someone rearended me in my truck and I couldn't ride.
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05-12-2008, 8:08 PM
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RustyTec
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You are the only one here with lithium on your Pro-Link collars. That makes you a guinea pig. Who knows, maybe you will find that it works fine.
I’d be happy to ride your Grandfather’s Route. Just give me a place and time, to meet up.
Sorry, I have zero experience with MC.
BTW here is a shorter link to that page:
Grandfather’s Route
(You may be able to edit your last post with a cut an past of this link).
RustyTec ’81 GL500. Dallas Texas.
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05-12-2008, 8:30 PM
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dafaic
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It's sad I can build a computer but I know nothing when it comes to the html/bbcode stuff. On the other forums I am on it gives you fast links to do that stuff.
And I don't care where we ride. Just thought I'd throw it out there. I mean we could meet up in Palmer/Ferris and go riding in that neck of the woods too. 664/660/813 and some of those others that go out to Combine and Segoville.
I have driven most of those as well.
I do real estate appraisals all over the DFW area.
I may be taking the bike on my first appraisal Thursday if it's not raining need to go to Corsicana to appraise a lake front home.
Would like to maybe do something not this weekend but next?
Thanks again for all the info guys and we will see how the maxima grease works out. I lubed all but the front prolink bolt as I didn't want to drop the hbox.
Hopefully between now and next weekend my crash bars will be ready from the powder coater.
81' Gl500 - First bike (Installed a Plexi-Fairing, Powdercoated crash bars with floor boards)
Getting back into ridding. Only got to ride the bike for 2 months after buying it when someone rearended me in my truck and I couldn't ride.
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05-12-2008, 8:34 PM
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dafaic
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Well i tried doing the short link deal and when I previewed my change it worked and now it's not so I have no idea.
81' Gl500 - First bike (Installed a Plexi-Fairing, Powdercoated crash bars with floor boards)
Getting back into ridding. Only got to ride the bike for 2 months after buying it when someone rearended me in my truck and I couldn't ride.
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05-12-2008, 9:41 PM
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RustyTec
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No one knows the weather for weekend after next, this is Texas, after all.<br><br>The font bolt is the toughest, and therefore the last serviced, and most neglected. I’ve read that IT is the first to come out, on a ‘new’ bike, for some here. For a very good reason.<br><br>Firefox is the answer to posting links here. I’m not sure why. (Charles never cared for MS).<br><br>Thank you for deleting your long ass link, so members don’t have to scroll horizontally.<br><br>
RustyTec ’81 GL500. Dallas Texas.
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05-12-2008, 11:00 PM
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dafaic
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Well I have some crash bars at the powder coater right now and was going to pull the hbox when the head pipes come off to install them and do that bolt at that time.
I just didn't want to mess with the hbox then.
When It comes to exhaust the less you mess with it the better.
81' Gl500 - First bike (Installed a Plexi-Fairing, Powdercoated crash bars with floor boards)
Getting back into ridding. Only got to ride the bike for 2 months after buying it when someone rearended me in my truck and I couldn't ride.
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05-19-2008, 12:39 PM
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dafaic
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Well the crash bars are ready and I guess this next weekend I am going to pull all that apart to put them on and work on the rear suspension again.
The squeak is back. It sounds like it could be that front bolt I didn't work on but the only real thing to do is to take it all apart again and see.
Rusty I have to say after riding 140 miles on Saturday that was pretty tuff. I only made 2 stops though which could have impacted that. Not sure if I am ready to go on another long ride like that. Maybe we could meet up in Ferris or Palmer and cruise some of those roads?
Kinda like working out you gotta work your way up to the big stuff you can't just go out and start working out with 500 pounds on the bench press.
81' Gl500 - First bike (Installed a Plexi-Fairing, Powdercoated crash bars with floor boards)
Getting back into ridding. Only got to ride the bike for 2 months after buying it when someone rearended me in my truck and I couldn't ride.
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05-19-2008, 12:50 PM
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dafaic
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i just ordered a tube of moly 60 paste...
81' Gl500 - First bike (Installed a Plexi-Fairing, Powdercoated crash bars with floor boards)
Getting back into ridding. Only got to ride the bike for 2 months after buying it when someone rearended me in my truck and I couldn't ride.
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06-01-2008, 10:04 AM
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dafaic
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rebuilt the suspension again last weekend and the lithium grease had already nearly evaporated inside the bushings. The heat strength of the moly 60 is 1500* while the lithium is in the 5XX* I did grease the fittings on the front lower bolt and those bushings which was not done the first time as I didn't want to remove the hpipe.
Well after 200 miles still no squeak.
I also got my black powder coated crash bars installed and I have mini floor boards coming to clamp onto them for highway pegs.
I'll be ready for a stretch of riding once I get those.
Rode 140 miles on Friday, spent a total of 4 1/2 hours on the bike and my legs hurt in the crotch joints badly.
81' Gl500 - First bike (Installed a Plexi-Fairing, Powdercoated crash bars with floor boards)
Getting back into ridding. Only got to ride the bike for 2 months after buying it when someone rearended me in my truck and I couldn't ride.
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06-01-2008, 7:27 PM
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RustyTec
Joined on 08-26-2007
Dallas Tx.
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Re: squeaky rear suspension
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Congrats on getting the moly in there without issues.
I’m a bit surprised that the lithium dried so fast, I was expecting it to last a couple of thousand miles. Note, do not be surprised if you notice the moly drying out, the grease only serves to deliver the moly.
A bigger surprise is you having trouble building up endurance. I thought you young whiper-snappers wouldn’t have that problem. I thought my endurance issues were due to me being an ‘old-fart’. Now I guess that it was the fact that I had not ridden in 20 years. When I was a 20yo, I rode a 350four from California to Dallas. It took me a week. I just checked, I only averaged 200 miles per day. Apparently motorcycles require mussels that we don’t normally use.
My first real ride (last year) was 40 miles round trip to a bank to cash a check. I got there to find that I ‘literally’ could not sign my name. (I was making the mistake of hanging on to the bars way too tight). When I got home I was hot, sweaty, and all wore out. I remember thinking: Why would anyone want to ride. It is just too dam uncomfortable. lol
My second ride, Just after sunset I rode 40 miles, made a U-turn and came home. Mostly it was a good ride. I had to constantly remind myself that I did not have to keep a death grip on the bars. Then the big issue was a numb butt. During a lane-change the bike went into a tank-slapper that just about made me a non-biker. Air in the shocks and new tires solved that.
My third ride, 150 miles RT in blistering sun in 100 degrees heat. That trip dam near killed me. It did lay me up for two weeks.
A few seat mods, a throttle rocker, and a year later, I’m good for 400 miles in one day, but I’d need more than one day of rest before I could do another 400-mile run. So, no 3-day Memphis trips for me, yet.
One other issue was being able to cruise at a set speed. Early on, every time I looked at the speedO, I was either 10 mph over or under. I really worried about tickets. Now my body sets and maintains my speed without conscious thought. Pretty cool.
Now if I could just remember that my truck has a gas gage and I don’t have to remember how many miles I can safely get on a fill-up. Lol.
“Maybe we could meet up in Ferris or Palmer.” Sounds good, or we could just cruise Waxahachie. I’ve never been there. It would be fun to show off our ‘same year, make, and model’ to as many spectators as possible.
I’m free Mon – Thurs. Sat I ride with my buddy, he is currently riding a Buell and don’t care about showing-off SilverWings. However, I could get him to do a ride South of Dallas, as long as it interests him. (Another Ferris run, in search of a place to shoot or camp would work). Sun I usually have a pool party to attend after 4pm.
“crotch joints” lol. - I believe you are referring to the hip ligament. I have a bit of an issue, but I can ignore it better than the leg and foot cramps, and those are becoming less and less of a problem. - Your highway mini floorboards should help. Different hip/leg angle.
RustyTec ’81 GL500. Dallas Texas.
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06-02-2008, 7:20 AM
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dafaic
Joined on 04-25-2008
Waxahachie, TX
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Yeah everytime I get to my destination I have grip marks in my hands for a few minutes. I do have one of those strap on things on the throttle my dad gave me (throttle rocker?).
Friday was pretty tuff on me. Spent 4 1/2 hours on the bike and only rode 130-140 miles.
It was hot and I dehydrated myself. I wound up pissing blood that nite. A mixture of dehyrdation and jeans that are well they fit for all purposes except for riding.
So I am learning some necessary things as I go along. Thats only my second long run. I can handle 50 miles no sweat but the 100+ miles with minimal to no break just hurts.
I also got my F-I-L's bike up and going so he will prolly join in as well. Couple silverwings and a naked goldwing.
Waxahachie is known for it's historic homes, old courthouse, we have 1 of very few Chataquas left in the US, a park to ride around I believe the road around the park is 1/4 mile I know big whoop but it's green. If you like old houses and stuff like that I can defintly give you street tour of some of these old houses. During Gingerbread trail they have about 10-15 homes people set up and allow people to tour them.
My family has been in Waxahachie since the late 1800's as Cotton Farmers and then later owned one of the first resturants in down town around the 20's and 30's and my family had another resturant from the 50's till 1988.
I would say my endurance issues stem from never riding at all and didn't know some of those muscles existed not to mention I sit in a more compact state on the bike than I do anywhere else and I don't sit anywhere for more than a couple hours.
Hell 5 hours in the truck and I am hurting. I just don't sit anywhere for long or atleast the same position and same place.
My bike does have a different seat on it and it's comfortable.
I washed the bike yesterday so it should get better mpg. Only got 42.8 on the last tank. We prolly average 75 most of the trip plus I had about 30 miles of ideling and putting around.
81' Gl500 - First bike (Installed a Plexi-Fairing, Powdercoated crash bars with floor boards)
Getting back into ridding. Only got to ride the bike for 2 months after buying it when someone rearended me in my truck and I couldn't ride.
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06-02-2008, 11:55 AM
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mildhog
Joined on 11-21-2007
Chesapeake, VA
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Nothing wrong with taking frequent breaks. I read somewhere that a good interval is about every 75 mi. with gas stops at every other stop. Can't remember where I saw that but it works for me. Hydration is very important. That means water or sport drinks. Soft drinks and the like only aid in dehydration.
Arnie in VA
1980 GL1100I Goldwing
1982 GL500I Silverwing
1983 GL650
(The stable is full)
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06-02-2008, 2:15 PM
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dean
Joined on 06-13-2007
Pittsboro, NC
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 mildhog wrote: | | Nothing wrong with taking frequent breaks. I read somewhere that a good interval is about every 75 mi. with gas stops at every other stop. Can't remember where I saw that but it works for me. Hydration is very important. That means water or sport drinks. Soft drinks and the like only aid in dehydration. |
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you read that on here where someone was talking about an ironbutt run and that 75 mi is good for our bikes because you could fill up ever other stop and not waste a lot of time.
06 FZ6
80 CX500 Custom (project)
83 Gl650I (given back to original owner)
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06-02-2008, 2:38 PM
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You also need to take it easy on the sports drinks. If you read the labels they usually recommend only one per day. You can actually have too much potassium in your system and make yourself sick.
Water is your best friend. You need to stop to pee just as often as if you weren't riding the bike. I you don't, you need to check you water balance. It sounds gross, but you need to check your urine stream to make sure it isn't slippery. If it is slippery drink at least a half gallon of water before you even think about getting back on the bike.
On cool days you can wick away almost as much water as on a hot day, so drink even if you don't think you need it. Better to have to stop and pee often, than to dehydrate.
With the air going by you, you dehydrate much faster on a motorcyle than in a car or even working outside. Some argue that you dehydrate faster on a motorcycle than even riding a bicycle.
Instead of buying the sport drinks eat 2-3 bananas a day and it will replace most of the chemicals that you sweat away and help eliminate leg cramps.
I hope this helps somone out. When I started riding seriously over 20 years ago a friend sat me down with a doctor at a motorcycle rally who taught me this and several other things about hydration. You can never drink too much water when riding ... other than you will have to stop more often to go to the bathroom.
David from Wisconsin
R80Dave
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06-03-2008, 1:30 AM
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dafaic
Joined on 04-25-2008
Waxahachie, TX
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Yeah I saw that about the 75 mile stops on the iron butt thread.
The bad thing is I got the bike to work on. Not just fun or cheap transportatin but I am working on the bike so I come into time constraints alot. For example leaving Waxahachie at 9:45 to go 40 miles GPS had some wrong streets named, did some time killer back tracking, got hung up in a bad wreck and had to detour 10 miles out of the way to get around it (yeah it was necessary a 1 ton truck hauling a 5th wheel rearended a cop and pancaked the cop car), and had to be back to Waxhachie before 3 pm to pick up my son. Riding hard with only about 25 minutes of off the bike time, 2 bottles of water and a bottle of Gatorade.
Anyway pulled upto the house at 2:45pm. So not alot of miles but a lot of time on the bike, over 90* outside, badly sunburned forearms.
I will start packing more water thats for sure.
Another thing is I am the type of person that wears shorts when it's 40 outside. So wearing jeans in the middle of summer is way out of character. So I am even worse off because I am raining sweat till I get back on the bike and get moving again which is also dehyrating me.
Thanks for all the tips and support and knowledge you guys are passing on I really appreciate it!
81' Gl500 - First bike (Installed a Plexi-Fairing, Powdercoated crash bars with floor boards)
Getting back into ridding. Only got to ride the bike for 2 months after buying it when someone rearended me in my truck and I couldn't ride.
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06-03-2008, 6:08 AM
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dean
Joined on 06-13-2007
Pittsboro, NC
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talk about sweating... i sweat no matter what time of year it is. and in nc we have the wonderful east coast humidity. pack all of that with i am an ATGATT kinda person and i can really poor water out. i had an epiphany last night. i have a camel pack from a few years back. i'm going to get it cleaned up and start riding with it when i can. even with a full faced helmet, that little tube will fit up under it and into my mouth and i can make sure i'm staying hydrated. might be a thought for some of you guys as well.
06 FZ6
80 CX500 Custom (project)
83 Gl650I (given back to original owner)
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06-03-2008, 7:04 AM
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dafaic
Joined on 04-25-2008
Waxahachie, TX
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Yeah I'm right there with you Dean. I went skiing with my grand parents 11 years ago and took all this warm stuff they bought me plus my normal clothes. Needless to say I wore the warm stuff till lunch the first day and skied in jeans and a t-shirt the rest of the time. Hell when we got off the plane I was wearing shorts. Everyone thought I was crazy. I wore shorts if I wasn't skiing.
I only regretted shorts my first 10 minutes and 1st major lesson at the condo. They asked me to run back down to the bus for something and not realizing I was on the second floor as snow was even with the balcony floor I hoped over the balcony ledge and sank about 4 feet into the ground. I had to tredge through the snow till I got to the carved out walking path. about 20 feet. LOL
That was in Purgatory, Co early March 1997.
81' Gl500 - First bike (Installed a Plexi-Fairing, Powdercoated crash bars with floor boards)
Getting back into ridding. Only got to ride the bike for 2 months after buying it when someone rearended me in my truck and I couldn't ride.
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07-17-2008, 4:54 PM
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kenglong
Joined on 06-04-2006
Albuquerque, NM
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I just picked up a tube from a local dealer. They actually stocked it but it was $16 for a little 3oz tube! Good thing I won't be using too much to rebuild the Pro-Link.
Also stopped at the gun shop to get a 12ga brush but forgot to get a 14mm swivel socket for the top bolt on the monoshock. I'll try my standard tools first then if I can't get that bolt out, I'll go get a swivel socket.
This board rocks! All this info is in the archives. Sure helps the confidence level when tacking a big job like this.
Ken in Albuquerque
'83 GL650 Silverwing
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07-17-2008, 10:23 PM
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RustyTec
Joined on 08-26-2007
Dallas Tx.
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You will be surprised how long 3oz, will last. I did my Pro-Link, final-drive, and spark-advancer. I think I have enough to do the final drive a second time.
Swivel socket? I thought it was a regular socket, on a swivel adapter. I’ve been meaning to see how easy it is to get a socket on it, just to know how stupid it was, for me to take out the air-box, when I didn’t need to!
‘Kenglong’, You should have started your own thread. This one died when ‘dafaic’ put his bike up for sale without as much as a word. I think the Texas heat made him decide to stick to air-conditioned cagers. I replied to his add and tried to coax him into keeping it for the Fall, Winter, and Spring. He didn’t reply. Dam shame, I wanted to ride with him.
1981 Honda Gl500 Silver Wing FS OR FT for something that gets 25+mpg - $2500 (Waxahachie)
http://dallas.craigslist.org/sdf/mcy/751416639.aspx
1981 Honda Gl500 Silver Wing FS OR FT for 4cyl car or truck - $2500 (Waxahachie)
http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/mcy/746556141.aspx
If he does sell it, I hope he at least tell the buyer about this site.
RustyTec ’81 GL500. Dallas Texas.
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