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Started by Natrik at 08-04-2008 11:02 AM. Topic has 18 replies.

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   08-04-2008, 11:02 AM
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Sooooooo... I finally did it. I've got my sanity back, and here are some pics. I was really lousy about taking good pics with this one, and I kept changing things to make it work so it was hard to keep up with myself.

I used Charles' design, so I'm going to save some time and tell you to look at his page on forward controls. I had to make mine a little different, though, because I still have my H-box and heat shield. Just two extra bends in the arm I used for the shifter. I loaded up on old sport bike shifter parts from Cyclepsycho. I think I used five of those ball joints on the shifter side alone. I tried an idea to use less joints but it didn't work at all.

Charles said it took him several months of trial and error, and it took me well over a month to copy his design. This is by far the trickiest fabrication project I've taken on. Very frustrating.

Anyhow, look at the pics and ask me questions. Hopefully I can make it easier for the next fellow who tries it....


I cut off the ends of my highway bars (see the "Highyway bars" thread), welded bolts to heavy washers, then welded the washers to the bar ends.


I screwed on sport bike pegs with shafts that allowed the shifter and brake pedals to pivot.


Mock-up of shifter parts.


Parts welded together.


Lousy close up of the shifter arm. Charles has a better one of his.


After my first test ride I decided to make it a heel-toe shifter. It is a little stiffer than the stock shifter and I didn't want a bruise on my big toe (I'm a real badass, can you tell? )


Modified brake pedal


Final parts painted.


Finished shifter.


Finished brake.


Entire shifter.


Entire brake.

So that's it for now. I'm going to re-do the brake inkage and make it from hollow tubing like Charles', mine flexes a little and I can't get full braking power out of it. The shifter works great.
After doing this, I realize why those two German websites want $500 and $600+ for their setups. Almost worth it if you had the means......

If it wasn't for physics and law enforcement, I'd be unstoppable.....

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   08-04-2008, 11:10 AM
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 Blindstitch2002 wrote:
Pretty sweet looking set up. Any chance you remember how much the total parts cost.
I think I'm pretty sure if the german site is getting $600 you could mass produce these for sale for $300 and im sure people would buy them.  How much time did they take to make.


I wouldn't think I could get that much out of my setup, only because they don't look professionally done. The $600 setups are machined and engineered for production, and look amazing. Mine look like they are handmade.
 I wish I would have kept a running tally for parts. I had to buy some things several times until I got the design right.
I think if I was to make another set it would take me 2-3 days to make (if I had everything sitting in front of me and nothing else to do).
I'm going to brainstorm something, and would like feedback. Look for a post from me in the buying/selling forum......

If it wasn't for physics and law enforcement, I'd be unstoppable.....

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   08-04-2008, 2:12 PM
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Wow, nice job! I think you're onto something here.

I was thinking of doing my own rear sets but pondered the thought of welding a piece onto the original shift lever like you did.
At first glance, I figured the shift and brake levers were some type of high quality cast metal (am I wrong about this?)- something I would not try to weld as I lack the experince/skills to weld cast materials.  What did you weld with and what is the type of material you added?

Thanks

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   08-04-2008, 11:22 PM
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Everything is steel, except the brake lever which is aluminum. I did everything with my Harbor Freight wire feed welder. I removed the original shift lever completely, everything on the shifter side is fabricated.

If it wasn't for physics and law enforcement, I'd be unstoppable.....

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   08-05-2008, 7:18 AM
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Sorry, I had missed the comment with 7th picture showing the modified stub of the original brake lever.

If it's not too much of a bother, would you mind a little more detail on the shift lever attachment mods? And maybe (pretty please) a close up pic?
I think this is the part that will be giving me the the most grief when making my own rear sets. (Please note, I understand if you wish to keep these details to yourself, you certainly deserve the opportunity to make a return on your investment).

Thanks for taking the time to post the pictorial by the way, very helpful to many I'm sure!
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   08-05-2008, 6:25 PM
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Good one Natrik. Inspiring stuff, well done.
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   11-26-2008, 4:03 PM
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how wel did these work for you this year?
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   08-06-2009, 8:04 AM
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Natrik, glad you got some ideas from my chopper project. Your controls turned out nicely.

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Well done. My hat is off to you. Wait, I don't wear a hat.

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   08-06-2009, 5:40 PM
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Well, I'm impressed.  That looks like a ton of work though.

On the off chance I win the Powerball, what are the URLs to those German sites?



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   08-06-2009, 5:56 PM
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I'm not certain, but I think Natrik has left the building (of forward controls, and of his great idea for highway pegs) to somebody else. (these posts are almost a year old)


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   08-06-2009, 6:48 PM
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From memory I think Natrik bought a Shadow and sold the Cx to someone.

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   08-06-2009, 7:18 PM
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Wow! looks like I still get some email notifications once in a while
Thanks for the kudos. The forward controls turned out very nicely. Using hollow tubing was the key change for the brake pedal, there wasn't any flex and I had full braking control.

Unfortunately, Blindstitch is right, I did sell my CX last November to buy my fiance's ring. I bought a VTX1800R to keep myself sane, and while I love it almost as much as my soon-to-be wife, there was nothing as rewarding as building my CX into what it was. I can't wait to get my hands on my next project, and more than likely it'll be another CX. I'm building a CB750 bobber for my sister right now, and the only reason it's not a CX is because I couldn't find one locally when she wanted me to start the project....



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Nice.
Odd enough it looks exactly like the CX. Only more refined.

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   08-23-2009, 3:44 PM
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hi great job on the forward controls trying to do the same but dont know were u mounted them to if u could let me know would be realy thanks

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Natrik,

Very nice. I like to see these kinds of projects.

I can't wait to see what you come up with over the winter when you have a lot more time.

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Natrik, if you still receive post notifications I would like to talk with you about your forward controls. You did a great job with them.
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Natrik still checks in from time to time especially when his threads pop up so he should be out there riding.

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   10-27-2009, 7:05 PM
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Yes! I do. I'd be happy to help out however I can. I think you sent me a PM so I'll respond with my email and phone...

I'm working on opening my bike shop here in Eugene by spring, so if anyone is in Oregon and needs custom or repair work done, let me know and I'll cut a "Chopper Charles Forum" deal.....

If it wasn't for physics and law enforcement, I'd be unstoppable.....

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