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Started by elwood440 at 10-27-2008 2:52 PM. Topic has 55 replies.

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   10-27-2008, 2:52 PM
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I found a ZERO modification slip-on replacement muffler set! I nabbed a scratched pair of '07 FXDL (Dyna Lowrider) cans from the eee-bay. I had no idea if they'd work or not, but I got them for one measly dollar plus $20 shipping, so I couldn't really go wrong.

Well as it turns out, I couldn't have done any better either! First, they have NO crossover holes to try and plug. Next, they're the same length, so they won't look odd when fitted. The pipe diameter is a PERFECT fit, and the mounting slots on the cans will reach the stock hangers on the bike.

The mounting bracket on the muffler is a long slot, with a larger circle in the center. This allows you to use a standard carriage bolt to hang them. Pop the head thru the hole, and slide the square under the head to the end of the slot. To reach the stock hanger, I had to loosen the footpeg bolt and swivel the hanger about 5 degrees. This actually had the bonus of moving the folded peg out of the way of the luggage release button. Now I don't have to unfold the peg to get the bags off. Tighten 4 bolts and two clamps, and we're in business.

And now for the sound: I am in love with my bike all over again! It deepened the sound a LOT, and it's actually quite a bit quieter.. For ME that's a good thing, because I use my bike primarily for commuting. I wear earplugs, but the stock worn-out cans were still "exhausting" to listen to for an hour to work, and an hour home. I would NOT say it sounds like a harley now, but it for sure doesn't sound like a honda anymore.. Maybe closer to a Ducati, except not all hopped up on espresso.
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Sounds like your happy. Most harley mufflers are a direct replacement just depends on how much playing around you want to do.


Hey can you throw on some pictures of them?

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+1  Pics please

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Great find! I'd like to see pictures using the stock mounts too. Mine are marked as being from a FXD 1340 P/N 65747-94 which are from a mid 90's+ H/D Dyna. No crossover hole, but whoever installed them cut off those slotted mounts you spoke of and welded on a bracket, maybe the brackets weren't close enough on the ones I have. I agree with you on the sound, they are quite pleasant w/o being too loud. 


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Pics + a report on your gas mileage, please.

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Good to hear! I dig my 'Glide mufflers, but they weren't the easiest fit.

Of course, stuff that works on a GL650 isn't necessarily going to work on CX500s...

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I can't figure out how to post pics.. grr..

how bout this?
[L=http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v360/171/122/1535391883/n1535391883_55665_65.jpg]rear view[/L]

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Do you have a side view?


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sweet, thanks, here's the rest..
whole bike:
http://photos-f.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v360/171/122/1535391883/n1535391883_55661_6712.jpg

closer
http://photos-g.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v360/171/122/1535391883/n1535391883_55662_277.jpg

mounting from outside (hard to see at first)
http://photos-h.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v360/171/122/1535391883/n1535391883_55663_3577.jpg

Bag removed and better view of mounting
http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v360/171/122/1535391883/n1535391883_55664_6836.jpg

and you've already seen the rear view.

Not sure why I can't post a pic, or even a link (I tried) but thanks again blindstitch for making them work.
Maybe because I'm using a mac.. I'm still lost on these things. (macs)
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For help with posting with images, click to see a how-to thread HERE

In the prior post, the link for the third image is in-op so here's the others:










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Sorry for the double post -

Here's the last one:



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Those look pretty sweet. What's up with the quick release near the foot pegs. Never inspected a gl since I own a cx. Does that release the hard bags?

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Great pics, but I'm more interested in how they affect the fuel economy.
My CX500D had a massive drop in economy when I changed to sportster mufflers, I'm wondering if the Gl650 will be a little more forgiving, or if the smaller carbs won't like it.

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Man that IS sweet! Does the GL650 have an "H" box like a CX500? Are the pipes the same OD? I'd love to do that to my CX.
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nice looking bike, I've always liked those red gl650s.
Blindstitch, yes the quick release that looks like an old seat belt buckle is for the saddlebags.
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Yeah my Harley pipes were a straight bolt on job with no cuts, welds, or modifications but they are about to come back off. I love the sound but I dropped from a little over 50mpg to barely over 40mpg. With the sub 3 gallon tank on the Custom that means just under 100 miles of range and that is sort of a pain in the backside for me.

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Hello, I bought a '79 CX500 Custom yesterday and it looks clean but it hesitates and pops and backfires a bit at the higher speeds (like 45mph+). Its carbs have recently been rebuilt so I believe it just needs a valve clearance adjustment and work on the ignition timing. But I also want to get new mufflers...

Your post about the Dyna Lowriders has intrigued me - the bike is a bit loud for my taste right now and I'd like to deepen/soften the sound. Does anyone know if they would fit in a CX500 exhaust? I know I can get stuff like that for cheap on e-bay but I would like to make sure it will work first, just in case any of you have done the same thing with your bikes.

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The answer is yes.

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Yeah my Harley pipes were a straight bolt on job with no cuts, welds, or modifications but they are about to come back off. I love the sound but I dropped from a little over 50mpg to barely over 40mpg. With the sub 3 gallon tank on the Custom that means just under 100 miles of range and that is sort of a pain in the backside for me.


Just out of curiosity, did you try rejetting?

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Mileage update:

After two tanks, they haven't seemed to affect the mileage at all. It's still hovering around the 50mpg mark. And it's not like I babied it at all, in fact, I found one of my old favorite twisties and had some fun with it the other day. Will Dyna cans do the same for your mileage? can't say. YMMV, literally.

AFAIK, 500 and 650 exhaust is the same size.. Yes there's an H-box, and I have toyed with the idea of getting a custom pipe made to replace it, but have no immediate plans to.

I still love the new sound. Deep and rich, way more pleasant for commuting, although there are times where I miss a good loud BRRAAAP once in a while.

As far as performance, It's hard to say, but just on seat-of-the pants feel, I'd say the mod brought the torque curve lower in the RPM range. The other day during some "spirited" acceleration, between 1st and 2nd I got the slight flutter of the front wheel leaving the earth, if only for a split second. The only time that had ever happened before was when I missed a shift and popped it back into gear at 6k or so.
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Lovely! thanks!

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My CX with Harley 883 sportsters on drop my mileage from around 60 UK to anything as low as 45 UK.This equates to around 50 US to 37 US I think.
I put this down to the fact that my present Harelys only have a small half baffle in them and thus are much louder thus affecting the exhaust back slug the engine expects as there's easier exhaust out-flow.

   As I'm totally lost when it comes to re-jetting I don't know how much or how it would affect getting the fuel economy back up or where to start or if it's even possible :/

I'd love to see some one with the Harley 883s on take it down and get a Dyno on it to see if there's any power increase as there sure feels like it bearing in mind that the stock 500s are lucky to get around 45 BHP and not the 50 BHP they may have had when new.




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I found a ZERO modification slip-on replacement muffler set! I nabbed a scratched pair of '07 FXDL (Dyna Lowrider) cans from the eee-bay. I had no idea if they'd work or not, but I got them for one measly dollar plus $20 shipping, so I couldn't really go wrong. Well as it turns out, I couldn't have done any better either! First, they have NO crossover holes to try and plug. Next, they're the same length, so they won't look odd when fitted. The pipe diameter is a PERFECT fit, and the mounting slots on the cans will reach the stock hangers on the bike. The mounting bracket on the muffler is a long slot, with a larger circle in the center. This allows you to use a standard carriage bolt to hang them. Pop the head thru the hole, and slide the square under the head to the end of the slot. To reach the stock hanger, I had to loosen the footpeg bolt and swivel the hanger about 5 degrees. This actually had the bonus of moving the folded peg out of the way of the luggage release button. Now I don't have to unfold the peg to get the bags off. Tighten 4 bolts and two clamps, and we're in business. And now for the sound: I am in love with my bike all over again! It deepened the sound a LOT, and it's actually quite a bit quieter.. For ME that's a good thing, because I use my bike primarily for commuting. I wear earplugs, but the stock worn-out cans were still "exhausting" to listen to for an hour to work, and an hour home. I would NOT say it sounds like a harley now, but it for sure doesn't sound like a honda anymore.. Maybe closer to a Ducati, except not all hopped up on espresso.


Absolutely fantastic. How did you seal the joint between the H box and the Dyna muffler? tia
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I asked the same question a bit ago: http://choppercharles.com/cs/forums/101636/ShowPost.aspx

I tried the beer can aluminum/RTV (well.. mountain dew can in my case) but I didn't seal everything up well enough. Unfortunately, the mufflers I got have a slot in the flange that matches up exactly with a slot in the H-box, so it is real hard to seal up. I'm going to give it another go this week. I also picked up some of the exhaust leak repair tape that was mentioned, so I may use that.

I was considering a third method as well: Wrap the harley mufflers with can aluminum (to provide a solid cover over the slots that are causing me so much trouble), and then do the wrap completely around the aluminum and the muffler end, and fold over the edge as described. If I end up doing that I will post letting people know how it worked.

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Thanx. I hope the forum search function come back soon.

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I wouldn't hold my breath for the search, it's been down for a LONG time.  As for sealing, the RTV works great but is a pain if you plan on taking your silencers off again anytime soon.  If you're relatively certain you'll be keeping them on, use it, but otherwise I'd try the tape first, the beer/soda can second.  As for jetting, I ordered new ones and will be installing 90/120's as soon as they get delivered, so if any of you are wondering what difference that makes with Harley's I'll keep you posted:

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Regarding searching the forum:  Here's a thread that explains how to do it using Google: http://choppercharles.com/cs/forums/77109/ShowPost.aspx

I highly suggest putting that link in your Favorites.

Regarding sealing the exhaust:  NAPA has a fantasic product that I've used on cars, and I just used it on my CX to get a proper seal with the stock cans.  Here's the link:  http://www.napaonline.com/MasterPages/NOLMaster.aspx?PageId=470&LineCode=EXH&PartNumber=35959&Description=Exhaust+Pipe+%26+Muffler+Cement

Very good stuff. Gives a great seal, yet doesn't hamper disassembly.

 


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I didn't use anything to seal them up.. I lucked out and the slots didn't line up.. I just slid them together and clamped em up.

The header side of the h-box is a different story.. I finally settled on the Rob Davis aluminium foil gaskets in coombination with an exhaust sealing paste. Made by permatex, it cures hard as a rock, but will chip off quite neatly if you need to disassemble.
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hi,i have found  mufflers from a triumph bullet "t100"what do you think about them thank you all very much

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Just so you know, FX mufflers on a transverse twin aren't a new idea. When I started telling people to look for Harley mufflers on the Swedish fourm (about 10 years ago - before this one or it's predecessor were started) I had FX mufflers on both my Silverwing and my GoldWing. I think Phil was the first one that listened and helped a friend find a pair for his bike

I still have the same ones on the GoldWing (summer use only) since '97 - something like 70,000 Km.

The ones on the SilverWing lasted like 7 winters total on 2 bikes (they were on my GS400 trike before the GL500). One of them puked out a baffle and it sounded like one of those godawful noisy, ratty piped Harleys. The amazing thing is that, even though I don't wash the winter machine from first freeze until the snow has been gone for at least 2 weeks and the mufflers spend the winter under a coat of baked on salt, sand & road dirt, the chrome was pretty much intact but dull.


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Whoops... was going off pictures when I said the mufflers were different sizes. I got them in the mail today, and they are identical sizes and look like a good fit. I'll post another update after I get them on, but so far these Dyna Mufflers look like they'd work: HD Part Nr: 65844-95, from a 2000ish Harley Dyna Wide Glide.

 


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I bought a set if mufflers from a friend that rides HD  and the mufflers were of a 99 dyna they bolt right on and you dont have to modify anything plus the deeper tone is much more pleasant than the originals I dont know if PO drilled out the stock pipes but you could look straight thru them. I have not checked on mileage becouse i am still fighting carb problems ( had same problems before i changed the mufflers) When you crank up the rpms they sound awesome.

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Lono,

Are they quieter, or just a lower tone? I'm really looking for quieter.
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No Mine were much quieter than the originals but really have a deeper tone. They dont sound like tin cans. Mine are more quite with my half helmet than the old one with the full face on. They are easy to install and cheap so givem a try I will try to update my profile Pic with the ammo can saddle bags and shield and mufflers soon

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I had the exact same situation as Lono. My megaphones were loud as all getout and I could see straight thru them. I can not see thru the FX cans, and they're much quieter and much deeper.
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Exhausts that you can't see trough can be made a bit louder very easily (if someone here would want that). Just get a old, long, screwdriver, put it in the back and use a hammer to wack a hole in the reflection plate in the exhaust. We did it with our Harleymufflers on the bike you can see in my avatar.

By the way, if you can weld, or know someone who can, it's really eassy to make your own exhasut. I made one out of a thermos for coffee for my BMW caferacer.
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Loud is OK (aside from bothering people who will support anti-bike legislation) if you are only on it for a few minutes at a time but on longer trips it can get old pretty quickly. Before making your exhaust too much louder go for a long ride behind a buddy with loud pipes.

Unaltered Harley mufflers on a CX/GL sound great - far better than they soounded on the Harley they came from. I think it has something to do with the engine actually producing useful power.

I can't tell you hether they are louder or quieter than stock because I never had the original mufflers for the 500 and the ones that came with the 650 appear to have been altered. They certainly were louder/rattier than the ones on Rat's CX650E and Don was surprised at how loud it was when he & Gene visited last year. I can tell you that my ears don't ring after half an hour now that I have the Harley mufflers and people are more likely to encourage their children to wave at "the man with the sidecar" now.

But you should hear the GoldWing with Harley mufflers. Again, I never had the original mufflers, but 'Wings have the reputation of the stereos being louder than the engines. Mine isn't what you would exactly call loud, but you can definitely tell it's coming. Sort of like the snarl of a piped Porsche.


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OK, I just finished installing my Dyna mufflers today-- WOW, they sound amazing! Much better than my thirty-year-old, rusted out stock cans. Throatier somehow.

Anyway, they more or less slipped right in. I used the fiberglass/epoxy muffler repair tape discussed above, and they sealed just fine. By far the toughest part was taking off the old ones. After cutting off most of them with a reciprocating saw, I went at them with a hammer and a screwdriver. No chisel available, so I sacrificed a not so shiny flat head to the muffler gods. Took a while, but they did come out. I did punch a couple #2 flat head sized holes where the "H" box slip on flanges meet the rest of the "H" box, but the muffler tape seems to have sealed them right up.

I did have to a little bending to the stock brackets, but not too much. The right side seemed to be a little tougher, but I think that will vary depending on specific model and year.

Anyway, thanks to everyone for the idea and the tips in the forum-- would never have thought of it, nor believed it so easy. 

Next, I'll have to see about mileage/rejetting. I'm hoping it won't be necessary since the new Dyna mufflers seem more restrictive than the rusted out stock ones.

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I just won a pair of Dyna mufflers on that flea-bay place.
Can't wait to give 'em a try and see how it compares to my stock units that the PO had rodded out.
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Received my Dyna cans today, went to put them on and DOH! the exhaust gasket in the H-Box prevents the Dyna from slipping in place,

Before I attack the gasket "insert" with a chisel or destroy my H-Box..... I did check with an online store and new gaskets are still available should I want to put the old mufflers back on.... How welded to ther H-box should I expect these bad boys to be?
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Mine just kinda disintegrated, I don't know what they're made of but they are definitely softer than the Hbox, so I don't think you can do any permanent damage to it. The harley silencers, once the gasket material is cleared out, should almost seal inside the Hbox. If there is a leak, some muffler tape or even a beer/soda can cut up and made into a gasket will work.
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THANKS A MILLION!

Yep, the gasket pipe insert is some sort of graphite impregnated fiber. Cleaned up pretty easily and the Dyna slid right in. I will need to hit the store for some exhaust tape to seal it correctly but everyone who posted that these fit was 100% correct.

One more night in the garage and then a road test will be in order.
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Tim, I have 99 dyna glide mufflers on my GL and I am averaging over 50+ miles to the gallon!! My fuel economy actually increased over the straight thru modified stock mufflers. Hope this helps.

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Just won a set of 99-up Dyna mufflers on eBay. My stockers are completely rusted out. Can't wait to get them. Thanks for the heads up on the "no-mod" application. This in one good forum for this CX500 newbie.
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I did a quick Ebay search for Harley Dyna mufflers today but have a question: is there any specific year I should go for? They haven't changed the linkages any in recent years have they? The mufflers all kinda looked the same (none quite as cheap as listed above that I saw) but I'm wondering how specific I should get.
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If you buy on eBay you will probably pay more for shipping than they will cost at a local Harley place and you can see what you are getting. You want a pair that are the same (some HDs have a longer muffler on one and some pairs have mismatched mounting points) and don't have stubs for a crossover pipe.

Other than that, you will have to fabricate brackets (hardware store, hacksaw, drill) and maybe get some sections of pipe and some clamps from the auto parts place to make them fit so anything that looks good can be made to work.

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Sidecar Bob said:If you buy on eBay you will probably pay more for shipping than they will cost at a local Harley place and you can see what you are getting. You want a pair that are the same (some HDs have a longer muffler on one and some pairs have mismatched mounting points) and don't have stubs for a crossover pipe. Other than that, you will have to fabricate brackets (hardware store, hacksaw, drill) and maybe get some sections of pipe and some clamps from the auto parts place to make them fit so anything that looks good can be made to work.

I'd been under the impression from the above posts it was a pretty simple bolt-on job. Not that it really matters too much to do simple modifying though. I'll call the Harley shop in my area to see what they're asking, but if it's too much over $50 for both then I may just do the Fleabay thing.
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